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1 TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON HEAT RECOVERY STEAM GENERATORS NFPA 85 First Draft Meeting Minutes February 9, :00 AM - 5:00 PM MT Embassy Suites by Hilton Phoenix-Tempe, Tempe, AZ Attendees Committee Members: Dwight Hyche, Chair David Dexter* Fedja Drndarevic Dale Evely Martin Fry Steven Graf David Hinshaw David King Randy Kleen David Leeper Mark Loomer* Steven Meierotto Windy Muehleisen Alan Robertson Swiss Re America Holding Corporation, MS The Dow Chemical Company, LA Technical Standards and Safety Authority, Canada Southern Company Services, Inc., AL Coen Company, Inc., CA Emerson Automation Solutions, PA Dynegy, Inc., NY American Electric Power Company, Inc., OH General Electric Company, TX Burns & McDonnell, MO AECOM, NJ Nooter Eriksen, MO Forney Corporation, TX Sargent & Lundy, LLC, IL Page 1 of 9

2 Jimmie Schexnayder Ilya Yarinovsky* Donald Bairley* Jennifer Beckmann Harrison Manning* Roy Reeves Karen Whitehead Entergy Corporation, LA Bechtel Corporation, MD General Electric, CT Nooter Eriksen, MO Southern Company Services, Inc., AL Emerson Automation Solutions Black & Veach Corporation, KS Laura Moreno, Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association, MA Guests Marc Cropp Joseph Fehr Joseph Bittinger Nando Nunziante William Rucki Southern Company Services, Inc. Sega Inc. American Electric Power Zeeco Fives North American Combustion *Participated by phone 1. Call to Order. Dwight Hyche, Chair, called the meeting to order at 8:00 AM and welcomed the attendees to the meeting. 2. Introductions. Attendees introduced themselves and identified their affiliation. 3. Approval of Minutes. The minutes from August 10, 2016 were approved without revision. 4. Staff Updates. Laura Moreno provided an overview of the Fall 2018 revision cycle schedule and the NFPA process. (attached) 5. Review of Public Inputs: NFPA 85 Chapter 8. The Technical Committee reviewed Public Inputs and developed First Revisions as necessary. Dwight Hyche, Chair, pointed out that if Page 2 of 9

3 the chair submitted Public Input they are not supposed to chair the meeting while their Public Inputs are presented, but the Technical Committee agreed to waive that for this meeting since the Public Inputs submitted by the chair on behalf of the committee were agreed upon at the pre-first Draft meeting last year. 6. Review of Fundamentals Technical Committee actions. The Technical Committee reviewed several items that were flagged by the Fundamentals Technical Committee for their review and created First Revisions and Committee Inputs as necessary. Karen Whitehead and Jimmie Schexnayder were tasked with reviewing Committee Input 220 and First Revision 155, which would remove overpressure protection requirements from in favor of those added to Chapter 4. The committee members agreed in principle with the text in Committee Input 154 for determining the autoignition temperature of fired fuels, but recommended specifying it is the owner, rather than the owner or fuel provider, who should specify the AIT. Steve Meierotto was tasked with submitting the revised text as a Public Comment. The Technical Committee reviewed First Revision 112, which deletes the definition of combustion turbine normal shutdown from Chapter 3. This definition is necessary as the term is used within the Chapter 8 purge credit requirements and there needs to be a delineation between a turbine shutdown and a boiler shutdown. The existing definition needs to be retained. The need to retain this definition should be brought to the attention of the Fundamentals Technical Committee and Correlating Committee. 7. Task Group Reports. Purging of HRSG/Bypass Stack. Steve Meierotto (chair), Don Bairley, and Randy Kleen. Steve had submitted language to the Fundamentals Technical Committee before their January meeting to clarify autoignition temperature requirements, which resulted in Committee Input 154. See additional notes in Item New Business. The committee briefly discussed, at Dale Evely s request, requirements for detecting and responding to fin metal tube fires in section Operators are looking for guidance in complying with these sections and the belief on the part of the HRSG providers seems to be that this type of fire is highly unlikely. Committee members were asked to consider this for further discussion during the Second Draft meeting. 9. Next Meeting. The Technical Committee agreed to hold the Second Draft meeting on January 25, 2018 in Phoenix, AZ or New Orleans, LA, in conjunction with the Technical Committee on Multiple Burner Boilers. 10. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 3:10 PM. Page 3 of 9

4 Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators Phoenix, AZ At this and all NFPA committee meetings we are concerned with your safety. If the fire alarm sounds, please proceed to an exit. February 9, 2017 Staff liaison: Laura Moreno Chair: Dwight Hyche nfpa.org 2 Members Members, please verify/update your contact information Use of audio recorders or other means capable of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of this or any NFPA meeting is not permitted Guests All guests are required to sign in and identify their affiliations. Participation is limited to TC members or those individuals who have previously requested time to address the committee. Other participation is granted at the discretion of the Chair. Guest chairs are located around the room as a courtesy. nfpa.org 3 nfpa.org 4 Enforcers 5% Members: 1 Insurers 5% Members: 1 Installer/Maintainer 0% Members: 0 Labor 0% Members: 0 Manufacturers 30% Members: 6 Research & Testing 0% Members: 0 Special Experts 30% Members: 6 Users 30% Members: 6 Consumer 0% Members: 0 Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators 20 Voting members 26 Total committee members 6 Principals with alternates Alternates can apply at 5 Public Input Stage (First Draft): First Draft Meeting: TODAY Posting of First Draft for Balloting Date: 4/27/17 Posting of First Draft for Public Comment: 9/7/17 Comment Stage (Second Draft): Public Comment Closing Date: 11/16/17 Second Draft Meeting Period: 11/16/17-2/8/18 Posting of Second Draft for Balloting Date: 3/22/18 Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: 8/2/18 Tech Session Preparation: NITMAM Closing Date: 8/30/18 NITMAM /CAM Posting Date: 10/11/18 NFPA Annual Meeting: June 2019 Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Consent Documents: 11/5/18 Issuance of Documents with CAM: August 2019 nfpa.org 6 Page 4 of 9 1

5 Members categorized in ANY interest category who have been retained to represent the interests of ANOTHER interest category (with respect to a specific issue or issues that are to be addressed by a TC) shall declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting on any Public Input, Comment, or other matter relating to those issues throughout the process. Voting at First Draft Meeting Only principals can vote. alternate may vote if the principal is not present All Principals encouraged to have an alternate. Voting during meeting is used to establish a sense of agreement on first revisions (simple majority). nfpa.org 7 nfpa.org 8 General Procedures Follow Robert s Rules of Order. Discussion requires a motion. Committee member actions: Member addresses the chair. Receives recognition from the chair. Introduces the motion. Another member seconds the motion. nfpa.org 9 nfpa.org 10 Committee chair actions: States the motion. Calls for discussion. Ensures all issues have been heard. Committee Actions and Motions: Resolve Public Input Create a First Revision Create a Committee Input (Trial Balloon) Takes the vote. Announces the result of the vote. nfpa.org 11 nfpa.org 12 Page 5 of 9 2

6 Resolve a Public Input (PI) Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) to respond (resolve) a Public Input. Committee must clearly indicate reasons for not accepting the recommendation in CS and/or point to a relevant First Revision PI does not get balloted Create a First Revision (FR) Committee wants to make a change to a current section or add new text. Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change. (do not refer to PI as the reason) Ensure any associated PIs get a committee response, often simply referring to the relevant FR. Each FR gets balloted nfpa.org 13 nfpa.org 14 Create a Committee Input (Trial Balloon) Committee wants to receive Public Comment on a topic, but not ready to incorporate it into the draft Need to have a Committee Statement Does not get balloted Committee Statements (Substantiation): All Public Input must have a Committee Statement Must include a valid technical reason No vague references to intent Explain how the submitter s substantiation is inadequate nfpa.org 15 nfpa.org 16 Using Adobe Connect Motions for Ending Debate Previous Question or Call the Question Not in order when another has the floor Requires a second This motion is not debatable and DOES NOT automatically stop debate A 2/3 affirmative vote will immediately close debate and return to the original motion on the floor. Less than 2/3 will allow debate to continue. nfpa.org 17 nfpa.org 18 Page 6 of 9 3

7 Formal Voting Voting during meeting is used to establish a sense of agreement (simple majority) Secured by letter ballot (2/3 agreement) Only the results of the formal ballot determine the official position of the committee on the First Draft Balloting Initial ballot Circulation of negatives and comments First Revision that fails letter ballot becomes Committee Input (CI) just like the trial balloon version of CI so as to solicit Public Comment nfpa.org 19 nfpa.org 20 Ballots First Revisions (FR) ONLY Public Inputs and Committee Statements not balloted Reference materials are available - First Draft, PI, CI, CS, etc Allowed vote: Affirmative on all FR Affirmative on all FR with exceptions specifically noted Ballot form provides a column for affirmative with comment Note: This box only needs to be checked if there is an accompanying comment. Reject or abstain requires a reason. Electronic Balloting Ballots will be an online format Alternates are strongly encouraged to return ballots Ballot session will time out after 90 minutes Use submit to save your work nfpa.org 21 nfpa.org 22 Click link on the ballot received Sign in with NFPA.org Committee Login and Password Select either Affirmative on All or Affirmative with Exception(s) nfpa.org 23 nfpa.org 24 Page 7 of 9 4

8 Use See FR- # link to review all First Revisions Use Edit election to change individual votes or to modify vote after submitting ballot. Make selection: Affirmative with Comment, Negative, or Abstain No selection madedefaults to affirmative Must include comment on each vote. nfpa.org 25 nfpa.org 26 To complete ballot click Participant Consent and Submit Return and edit any votes before ballot due date. Antitrust Matters It is the policy of the NFPA to strictly comply with state and federal antitrust laws. NFPA expects all participants in its standards development activities to conduct themselves in strict accordance with these laws. It is the obligation of each participant to read and understand NFPA s Antitrust Policy. (You can access this policy at nfpa.org/regs.) nfpa.org 27 nfpa.org 28 Antitrust Matters (cont d) Participants must avoid any conduct, conversation or agreement that would constitute an unreasonable restraint of trade. Conversation topics that are off limits include: Profit, margin, or cost data; Prices, rates, or fees; Selection, division or allocation of sales territories, markets or customers; Refusal to deal with a specific business entity. Antitrust Matters (cont d) NFPA s standards development activities are based on openness, honesty, fairness and balance. Participants must adhere to the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards and the Guide for the Conduct of Participants in the NFPA Standards Development Process. (You can access the Regulations and Guide at nfpa.org/regs.) Follow guidance and direction from your employer or other organization you may represent. Be sure to ask questions if you have them. nfpa.org 29 nfpa.org 30 Page 8 of 9 5

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