Meeting Agenda Second Draft Meeting NFPA 405 and NFPA 422 Technical Committee on Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting March 18 th -19 th, 2014 Denver, CO

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1 Meeting Agenda Second Draft Meeting NFPA 405 and NFPA 422 Technical Committee on Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting March 18 th -19 th, 2014 Denver, CO I. Welcome and call to order by Chairman Kann II. III. IV. Introductions- members and guests Review and accept minutes from the May 2013 meeting NFPA update Ken Holland, Staff Liaison V. Review of cycle for NFPA 405 and 422 and discussion VI. Public comment/committee comment development for NFPA 405 VII. Public comment/committee comment development for NFPA 422 VIII. Other Businessa. Task Group reports i. Response times- Danny Pierce ii. Generic Foam Classifications- Bradford Colton b. Existing ARFF documents/revision cycles c. Potential new ARFF projects/documents d. ARFF industry news IX. Next Meeting- FDM for NFPA 414 (A-2016)

2 8 May Members Present Duane Kann, Chair John McDonald, Secretary Ken Holland, NFPA Staff Charles Cinquemani Ralph Colet Hanh Denniston (phone) Fred Goodnight John Huffman Stephen Listerman John Maddox Robert Mathis John McLoughlin Paul Meyer Graydon Matheson (phone) Pam Phillips Dirk Steyn Bradford Colton Steven Schwartz Thomas Smith Marc Tonnacliff (phone) Darrell Sooter Nicholas Subbotin (phone) Danny Pierce (phone) Christopher Toten Tim Vanfleet Guests Present Phil DiMaria Bernard Valois Paul Powell Tom Littlepage Ted Costa Miami Dade Fire Rescue Autopyro FAMA Evansville Regional Airport ARFF Massport Fire Rescue 1

3 The full committee meeting was opened by Chair Duane Kann at 08:13 on 8 May with the introduction of members and guests followed by opening remarks by the Chair. The minutes of the 23 October meeting were approved. Ken Holland, staff liaison, reviewed the general procedures for the meeting, the cycles for NFPA 405, 408 & 422, legal considerations and the first draft meeting process. The Chair gave a report on the input for the NFPA 1003 document. Further details were provided by the task group chair Steve Listerman. The NFPA 1003 committee was particularly interested in comments on Chapter 5 of NFPA 1003 Following a 10 minute break, the committee began processing public input for NFPA 405. The committee resolved 10 public input and generated a total of 14 first revisions from those public inputs. The committee broke for lunch at 12:35. Work resumed at 14:10 with the committees continued work on generating first revisions to NFPA 405. The committee voted to withdraw documents NFPA 408 and NFPA422. This was based on public input that was submitted for NFPA 408 while the committee voted to withdraw NFPA 422 due to the lack of use of the document as well as the potential for conflict it could create if used. The committee resolved 11 public inputs for NFPA 408 while generating 1 first revision. That first revision was to withdraw the document. The chair indicated that public inputs would be developed based on the relevant portions of 408 to be submitted to NFPA 10 for possible inclusion in their 2

4 document. This would be done through the use of a task group, to be established at a later date based on the outcome of the ballot of the entire committee with regards to the withdrawal of NFPA 408. After a brief review of tomorrow s activities, The Chair adjourned the meeting at 17:15. 9 May The Chair called the meeting to order at 08:05. A first revision to Chapter 6 of NFPA 405 was presented concerning component identification. An appendix item was presented to show specific examples. A task group was formed to develop public input for the 2 nd revision of 405 Input must be electronically submitted by 15 Nov Chapter 15: John Maddox-Chair Fred Goodnight Steve Listerman Robert Mathis John McLoughlin Marc Tonnacliff Tom Smith Chris Toten 3

5 Task groups were formed to develop public input for response times and generic foam classification: A first draft must be submitted to the Chair by 15 Nov 2013 Response Times Danny Pierce-Chair Grady North Ross Davidson Peter Bordeleau Jim Podolske Darrell Sooter Pam Phillips Marty Huffman Graydon Matheson Tom Littlepage Steve Schwartz Generic Foam Classifications Brad Colton-Chair Keith Bagot Graeme Day Bernard Valois Bob Darwin Dennis Kennedy Rob Mathis Joe Scheffey Dirk Steyn 4

6 Following a 10 minute break, work began on committee classifications. A revised list of committee classifications was completed and will be forwarded to the council. The Chair held a discussion on the importance of having an alternate, noting the committee members who need to get an alternate. Phoenix was proposed as the location for the next meeting in the last week In February, Meeting adjourned approximately at 12:00 on May 2 nd,

7 National Fire Protection Association Report Page 1 of 2 2/13/2014 Public Comment No. 3-NFPA [ Global Input ] Change the title, the scope of the document and all the elements to include it's usage for documenting ARFF response exercises. Suggested Title: Aircraft Accident/Incident/Exercise response assesment and documentation Suggested scope: Change after effectiveness... of the Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting responses to simulated or real aircraft Accident Incidents. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The document as it stands is rarely used due to the potential legal implication of infringing on the official aircraft accident investigator. Adding in the scope, the documentation of simulations will provide the user with a comprehensive checklists and allow for standardisation of data. In this format, the investigator could still use it as a tool if required. Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: BERNARD VALOIS Organization: AUTOPYRO Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Nov 12 16:48:10 EST 2013

8 National Fire Protection Association Report Page 2 of 2 2/13/2014 Public Comment No. 2-NFPA [ Section No ] The purpose of Chapter 5 is also to provide the following: (1) Information associated with a response to an exercise or to a real accident/incident that can be used to update and refine disaster plans for other airports and communities involved in aviation operations (2) Data for the revision of NFPA 424, Guide for Airport/Community Emergency Planning Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The document would serve the users to record systematically all elements of their response Submitter Information Verification Submitter Full Name: BERNARD VALOIS Organization: AUTOPYRO Street Address: City: State: Zip: Submittal Date: Wed Nov 06 18:39:57 EST 2013

9 2016 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up to date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at # (i.e. and click on the Next Edition tab. Process Stage Process Step Dates for TC Dates for TC with CC Public Input Closing Date for Paper Submittal* 6/6/2014 6/6/2014 Public Input Closing Date for Online Submittal (e PI)* 7/7/2014 7/7/2014 Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/12/2014 9/12/2014 Public Input Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 1/30/ /24/2014 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 2/20/ /14/2014 (First Draft) Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot recirc 2/27/ /21/2014 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/28/2014 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/9/2015 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 1/30/2015 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/20/2015 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot recirc 2/27/2015 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/6/2015 3/6/2015 Public Comment Closing Date for Paper Submittal* 4/10/2015 4/10/2015 Public Comment Closing Date for Online Submittal (e PC)* 5/15/2015 5/15/2015 Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Standards (Standards that 5/29/2015 5/29/2015 received no Comments) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received 6/12/2015 6/12/2015 no Comments) Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 10/30/2015 7/24/2015 Comment Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 12/11/2015 9/4/2015 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 1/4/2016 9/25/2015 (Second Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/11/ /2/2015 Draft) Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 10/9/2015 Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/20/2015 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/11/2015 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/4/2016 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot recirc 1/11/2016 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/18/2016 1/18/2016 Tech Session Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 2/19/2016 2/19/2016 Preparation Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent 4/15/2016 4/15/2016 Standards (& Issuance) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 5/3/2016 5/3/2016 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 5/13/2016 5/13/2016 Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/13 16/2016 6/13 16/2016 Appeals and Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 6/29/2016 6/29/2016 Issuance SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/4/2016 8/4/2016 Approved: October 30, 2012 Revised December 4, 2013