M I N U T E S FIRST ELECTRICAL TECHNICAL COUNCIL MEETING OF 2015

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1 DATE: February 9, 2015 M I N U T E S FIRST ELECTRICAL TECHNICAL COUNCIL MEETING OF 2015 TIME: LOCATION: PRESENT: 9:00 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Radisson Hotel Edmonton South Stan Misyk, Chair Jim Porth, Vice Chair - South Larry DeWald Roy Etwaroo (arrived at 9:20 a.m.) Kevin Harrison, Vice Chair North Shane Hoogenboom Bill McAllister Stewart Purkis Darcy Teichroeb Allan Nagel James Rivait (until 12:00 p.m.) Rene Leduc Danielle Paradis, Safety Codes Council Erin Stroud, Safety Codes Council Bob Hall, Technical Advisor, AMA Clarence Cormier, Chief Electrical Administrator, AMA GUEST: REGRETS: RECORDER: MEETINGS: Gerry Wiles, City of Edmonton John Briegel Ron Derworiz Clem Gratton Daryl Schmidt Sandi Orr May 4, 2015, Red Deer 9:30 a.m.; September 14, 2015, Calgary 9:30 a.m.; Monday, November 2, 2015 Edmonton 9:00 a.m.

2 A. Call to Order The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. and a round table introduction was held. B. Adoption of Agenda The following item was added to the agenda: F SCC Conference Update Shane Hoogenboom / Bill McAllister moved to adopt the agenda, as amended; CARRIED C. (a) Adoption of Minutes of the November 3, 2014 Meeting F was corrected to read urgency to gain certification Jim Porth / Shane Hoogenboom moved to adopt the minutes of the November 3, 2014 meeting, as corrected; CARRIED (b) Review of Action Items All action items were either completed or listed on the agenda. D. Business Arising from the Minutes F Items for discussion from CEC Jan. 13/14 Meeting Rules & GFCI Protection for Emergency Generators The Technical Advisor reported that this item is before CSA. The Chair of Section 28 advised that they are discussing where changes are best suited. For example, two proposed changes (Sections 32 and 46) might be more suitable. The Technical Advisor will continue following up on this item. Table 5E & Rule 4-004(22) Update The Chair of the CEC Working Group reported that he has not received anything submitted on the proper form and isn t even aware of who submitted the issue. Until that is received, this cannot be reviewed by the CEC Working Group. It was noted that Table 5E will be replaced with Table 39 in the next code. MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 2 of 11

3 Rule Automobile Receptacles The Technical Advisor reported that a request for interpretation was submitted at the beginning of October 2014 and a response has not yet been received. The Technical Advisor will continue to follow up. An overview was provided of the discussion held at the EIAA meeting last week regarding this issue and the challenge is that this cannot be changed in the code unless the CE Code Standard is changed as testing of block heaters and battery blankets also fall under this Part II Standard. It was suggested that the code could address this through special purpose receptacles. F CEC Part 1 Question Submission The Technical Advisor will follow up on the submission to CEC Part 1 on industrial skids (Subject 3494). F Proposed Adoption of the 2015 CEC, 23 rd Edition It was reported that the drafted letters have been received by the Coordinating Committee Chair but have not yet been forwarded to the Minister. An overview was provided regarding the proposed changes to the Act that would expedite the code adoption process. Regarding the review of the 2015 CEC 23 rd Edition, consensus was reached that there was definitely a level of comfort that the CEC has been thoroughly reviewed and the sub-council was prepared to recommend its adoption. It was noted that a draft Regulation was included in the portal. Rene Leduc / Kevin Harrison moved to recommend to the Minister, through the Chair of the Coordinating Committee, the adoption of the Electrical Regulation and to waive the 90-day review process; CARRIED E. Standing Agenda Items F Electrical Utility Code Working Group update An overview was provided on the last Working Group meeting held in Red Deer in November 2014: Primary focus of the meeting was to review the current code The code is closely tied to CSA Standards and two updated Standards will be published in the spring of 2015 The Working Group recommends that the code align with the CSA Standards code cycle MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 3 of 11

4 Each section of the code has been assigned to smaller groups to bring recommendations back to the Working Group Clarification was sought on the process for appointing new members when any members resign. The Chair of the Oil and Gas Code Working Group reported that he takes responsibility for the matrix, as a representative of the ETC. An overview was provided of new members and it was noted that the matrix is included on the portal. It was also clarified that any ETC member has the right to attend or be involved. It was reported that the safety rules, originally in the code and then transferred to OHS are being removed and replaced with reference to CAN ULC-S801, 2 nd edition. An updated version is about to be released. It was questioned regarding any communication that OHS has planned and how the council might wish to ensure this is communicated to all SCOs. Jim Porth / Stewart Purkis moved to recommend that AMA issue a Safety Notice once the OHS legislation is in force to highlight that OHS legislation no longer references Appendix A of the Electrical Utility Code; CARRIED F Oil & Gas Code Working Group update It was reported that the new code has already been recommended for publishing and adoption. It was questioned regarding who looks after grammar and formatting and noted that the Council is responsible. It was suggested that the final version be brought back to the Working Group Chair to ensure the intent has not changed after being edited. [Stroud] It was reported that the next Working Group meeting will be in April 2015 to begin the next code cycle review. E Canadian Electrical Code Working Group It was reported that the Working Group has not met since their meeting in March The Working Group Chair is awaiting information from CEC Part 1 before another meeting will be scheduled. F Master Electrician Advisory Group Update The Advisory Group Chair reported on their last meeting held on January 26, 2015: Danielle Paradis has taken over as the Administrator of Certification and Master Electricians MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 4 of 11

5 The Council continues to work on policies which will be reviewed by the Working Group before being brought to the sub-council Work continues on the Code of Ethics for Masters Electricians The Council is reviewing the proposed draft program outline The Council is auditing existing questions in the master electrician exam to ensure they support the objectives in the proposed draft program outline Examination ratification is set for March 5-6, 2015 to ensure all questions reflect the changes in the 2015 CEC Code update training has been added to the Certification and Permit regulation 295/2009 with amendments up to and including Alberta regulation 193/2014; the regulation now recognizes under Section (4)(4)(b) that the administrator may renew a master electrician certificate providing the holder of the certificate has completed to the satisfaction of the administrator any code update training that the administrator requires Kevin Harrison / Darcy Teichroeb moved to recommend to the Administrator of Certification for the Master Electrician Program that any master electrician seeking renewal of the master electrician certificate be required to take Canadian Electrical Code update training through a recognized Safety Codes Council course, within one year of the enforcement date of the 2015 Canadian Electrical Code in the province of Alberta; CARRIED It was reported that since Kevin Harrison has reached his maximum number of terms on the sub-council, the ETC will need to appoint a new Chair of the Advisory Group from members of the sub-council. E Ampacity of Circuits The STANDATA, contained on the portal, was reviewed and revisions were highlighted. The following suggestions for revisions were provided: Item #4 be revised to read by 1 or 3 rather than by 2 or 3 Suggested further review of Rules 4-006(16) and (17) Suggested 2015 rules should be used to revise the wording of the STANDATA Shane Hoogenboom will work with Roy Etwaroo and the Chief Electrical Administrator and a revised STANDATA will be brought forward for consideration at a future meeting. [Hoogenboom / Etwaroo / Cormier] MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 5 of 11

6 F Variances (b) Variances Spreadsheet An in depth discussion was held regarding the recommendations at the last meeting. Several were not in favour of the Administrator providing province-wide variances when perhaps a change to the code rules would be more appropriate. Some believed that there should be an even playing field for everyone so if something is deemed safe within one corporation, then it should be safe everywhere. Others believed that corporate-wide variances should be permitted and that changes should be made to the Council policy to allow this. It was suggested that province-wide variances may not be appropriate because an Accredited Corporation may have additional policies and practices in place to ensure equal or better safety, while these same practices may not exist in other places. It was clarified that SCOs have no authority to issue a province-wide variance for a specific corporation and it was questioned if SCOs are going beyond their scope of authority. Policies are in place and if these policies are not being followed, the SCO needs to be advised. If the ETC believes that policies need to be changed, then they need to make recommendations for revisions. Initially, it was agreed that each AMA recommendation be reviewed and considered. After beginning this process, concerns were expressed that these recommendations may not be based on having all of the necessary information from the SCO that authorized the Variance. Roy Etwaroo / Shane Hoogenboom moved that all discussion be tabled until the next meeting; DEFEATED Rene Leduc / Roy Etwaroo moved that the variance process be reviewed in conjunction with the QMP review; CARRIED Rene Leduc / Shane Hoogenboom moved to remove items (d) through (m) from the agenda; CARRIED Items(d) through (m) will be removed from the agenda. [Paches] F. New Business F Entry Qualifications for Group B Policy 4.40 The redrafted Policy 4.40 was reviewed. MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 6 of 11

7 Jim Porth / Bill McAllister moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee the adoption of the redrafted Policy 4.40; as circulated; CARRIED It was recognized that the notes within Technical Training Appendix B need to be reviewed relative to the AEUC. [Paradis] F Election of Chair for 2-year Term Jim Porth, Vice Chair chaired this agenda item in its entirety. The floor was opened for nomination of Chair of the Electrical Technical Council. Stan Misyk was nominated. After 3 calls and no further nominations, Stan Misyk was appointed as the Chair of the Electrical Technical Council, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. The floor was opened for nomination of Chair of the Canadian Electrical Code Working Group. Stan Misyk was nominated. After 3 calls and no further nominations, Stan Misyk was appointed as the Chair of the Canadian Electrical Code Working Group, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. Stan Misyk chaired remainder of the agenda items. The floor was opened for nomination of Chair of the Oil and Gas Code Working Group. Rene Leduc was nominated. After 3 calls and no further nominations, Rene Leduc was appointed as the Chair of the Oil and Gas Code Working Group, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. The floor was opened for nomination of Chair of the Alberta Electrical Utilities Code Working Group. Jim Porth was nominated. After 3 calls and no further nominations, Jim Porth was appointed as the Chair of the Alberta Electrical Utilities Code Working Group, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. The floor was opened for nomination of Chair of the Master Electricians Program Advisory Committee. Darcy Teichroeb was nominated. After 3 calls and no further nominations, Darcy Teichroeb was appointed as the Chair of the Master Electricians Program Advisory Committee, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. F Appointment of Scott Basinger or Mahmoud Saab Rene Leduc / Roy Etwaroo moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee, the appointment of Scott Basinger to the Electrical Technical Council for a term until January 31, 2018, effective immediately; CARRIED MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 7 of 11

8 F Appointment of Glenn Hedderick or Mark Montgomery Shane Hoogenboom / Darcy Teichroeb moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee, the appointment of Glenn Hedderick to the Electrical Technical Council for a term until January 31, 2018, effective immediately; CARRIED Kevin Harrison expressed his thanks to everyone as he has enjoyed his 9 years on the sub-council and learned so much. This led to a discussion regarding Vice Chairs of the sub-council. It was suggested that perhaps only one vice chair was needed. Discussion regarding Vice Chairs was deferred to the next meeting. F Load Information A document on Load Information was circulated as information. F CEC 2015 Code Update Training It was noted that the sub-council needs to decide if code update training and a mandatory exam is required for Group A SCOs. Bill McAllister / Kevin Harrison moved that all Group A Electrical SCOs be required to take code update training for the 2015 Canadian Electrical Code and 2015 Oil and Gas Code within 12 months of the in force date and that validation not be required through examination; CARRIED F SCC Conference Update Members were reminded of the upcoming SCC conference in Banff on June 3 to 5, Brief highlights were provided. G. Technical Coordinating Committee Report A brief overview was provided on topics currently being discussed by the TCC: SCA review still moving forward Levy increase proposals still in progress SCO continuing education Reduction in training expenses through ebooks Jurisdiction of medical gas, hydronics and non-waterbourne toilets New West Partnership Agreement Residential Care Facilities Next meeting is scheduled for March 16, 2015 MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 8 of 11

9 H. Next Meeting The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 4, 2015 in Red Deer at 9:30 a.m. The meeting was adjourned at 2:30 p.m. -- ACTION ITEMS -- F Items for discussion from CEC Jan. 13/14 Meeting Rules & GFCI Protection for Emergency Generators The Technical Advisor will continue following up on this item. Rule Automobile Receptacles The Technical Advisor will continue to follow up. F CEC Part 1 Question Submission The Technical Advisor will follow up on the submission to CEC Part 1 on industrial skids (Subject 3494). F Oil & Gas Code Working Group update It was suggested that the final version be brought back to the Working Group Chair to ensure the intent has not changed after being edited. [Stroud] E Ampacity of Circuits Shane Hoogenboom will work with Roy Etwaroo and the Chief Electrical Administrator and a revised STANDATA will be brought forward for consideration at a future meeting. [Hoogenboom / Etwaroo / Cormier] F Variances Items (d) through (m) will be removed from the agenda. [Paches] F Entry Qualifications for Group B Policy 4.40 It was recognized that the notes within Technical Training Appendix B need to be reviewed relative to the AEUC. [Paradis] MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 9 of 11

10 -- MOTIONS -- B. Adoption of Agenda Shane Hoogenboom / Bill McAllister moved to adopt the agenda, as amended; CARRIED C. (a) Adoption of Minutes of the November 3, 2014 Meeting Jim Porth / Shane Hoogenboom moved to adopt the minutes of the November 3, 2014 meeting, as corrected; CARRIED F Proposed Adoption of the 2015 CEC, 23 rd Edition Rene Leduc / Kevin Harrison moved to recommend to the Minister, through the Chair of the Coordinating Committee, the adoption of the Electrical Regulation and to waive the 90-day review process; CARRIED F Electrical Utility Code Working Group update Jim Porth / Stewart Purkis moved to recommend that AMA issue a Safety Notice once the OHS legislation is in force to highlight that OHS legislation no longer references Appendix A of the Electrical Utility Code; CARRIED F Master Electrician Advisory Group Update Kevin Harrison / Darcy Teichroeb moved to recommend to the Administrator of Certification for the Master Electrician Program that any master electrician seeking renewal of the master electrician certificate be required to take Canadian Electrical Code update training through a recognized Safety Codes Council course, within one year of the enforcement date of the 2015 Canadian Electrical Code in the province of Alberta; CARRIED F Variances Roy Etwaroo / Shane Hoogenboom moved that all discussion be tabled until the next meeting; DEFEATED Rene Leduc / Roy Etwaroo moved that the variance process be reviewed in conjunction with the QMP review; CARRIED Rene Leduc / Shane Hoogenboom moved to remove items (d) through (m) from the agenda; CARRIED MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 10 of 11

11 F Entry Qualifications for Group B Policy 4.40 Jim Porth / Bill McAllister moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee the adoption of the redrafted Policy 4.40; as circulated; CARRIED F Election of Chair for 2-year Term Stan Misyk was appointed as the Chair of the Electrical Technical Council, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. Stan Misyk was appointed as the Chair of the Canadian Electrical Code Working Group, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. Rene Leduc was appointed as the Chair of the Oil and Gas Code Working Group, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. Jim Porth was appointed as the Chair of the Alberta Electrical Utilities Code Working Group, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. Darcy Teichroeb was appointed as the Chair of the Master Electricians Program Advisory Committee, by acclamation, for a 2 year term. F Appointment of Scott Basinger or Mahmoud Saab Rene Leduc / Roy Etwaroo moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee, the appointment of Scott Basinger to the Electrical Technical Council for a term until January 31, 2018, effective immediately; CARRIED F Appointment of Glenn Hedderick or Mark Montgomery Shane Hoogenboom / Darcy Teichroeb moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee, the appointment of Glenn Hedderick to the Electrical Technical Council for a term until January 31, 2018, effective immediately; CARRIED F CEC 2015 Code Update Training Bill McAllister / Kevin Harrison moved that all Group A Electrical SCOs be required to take code update training for the 2015 Canadian Electrical Code and 2015 Oil and Gas Code within 12 months of the in force date and that validation not be required through examination; CARRIED MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council February 9, 2015 Page 11 of 11