M I N U T E S SECOND ELECTRICAL TECHNICAL COUNCIL MEETING OF 2012

Transcription

1 M I N U T E S SECOND ELECTRICAL TECHNICAL COUNCIL MEETING OF 2012 DATE: May 14, 2012 TIME: LOCATION: PRESENT: 9:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Delta Edmonton South Stan Misyk, Chair Larry DeWald Mike Gratton Kevin Harrison, Vice Chair North Rene Leduc Garfield Lee Brian Magega Bill McAllister Allan Nagel Jim Porth, Vice Chair South James Rivait Daryl Schmidt Darcy Teichroeb Gerald Baron, Safety Codes Council Dave McCallum, Alberta Municipal Affairs Dan Niven, Alberta Municipal Affairs James Orr, Alberta Municipal Affairs Mike Gardner, Safety Codes Council Celia McDonagh, Safety Codes Council (arrived at 9:20 a.m.) Brian Alford, Safety Codes Council (10:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.) REGRETS: RECORDER: NEXT MEETING: John Briegel Ron Mah Sandi Orr AEICTC May 31, 2012 Hyatt Regency, Calgary SCC Conference May 31-June 1, 2012 Calgary Monday, September 10, 2012 Calgary 9:30 a.m. Monday, November 19, 2012 Edmonton 9 a.m.

2 A. Call to Order The Chair called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m. and a round table introduction was held. B. Adoption of Agenda The agenda was amended as follows: E Deleted, as referenced in the previous minutes F Action to be revised to read [Harrison] [Paches] F Deleted, duplicate item F Adoption of the CEC 22 nd Edition Bill McAllister / Daryl Schmidt moved to adopt the agenda, as amended; CARRIED C. (a) Adoption of Minutes of the March 12, 2012 Meeting Jim Porth / Garfield Lee moved to adopt the minutes of the March 12, 2012 meeting, as circulated; CARRIED (b) Review of Action Items All action items were either completed or listed on the agenda. D. Business Arising from the Minutes F Request for a seat on ETC from City of Calgary A copy of the newly adopted policy including the addition of a second large municipality was circulated as information. A letter will be sent to the City of Calgary requesting a nominee and then brought forward to the ETC through the regular process. Being no further action, this item will be removed from the agenda. [Paches] F CEC 22 nd Edition / SCO Training It was reported that a course offering from the Electrical Contractor s Association has been received and granted equivalency for Code Update Training. Concern was expressed that this course is only four-hours whether it would provide sufficient time to address all changes in this version of the code. Comparably, the training institute s course on the same code update training is six to eight hours in duration. The Master Electrician Administrator stated that the Electrical Contractor s Association course did run at a fast pace but all information is in the course material that students can review further on their own and at their own pace. Students are also allowed to the instructors after the course should any clarification be needed. Participant feedback was very positive. Concern was also relayed that courses were not brought to the ETC for acceptance as required by policy. An example was provided by Rene Leduc on a similar overview he provided specific to his industry and suggested that this type of process may be the most appropriate a high level overview and focused areas relative to their scope of work. MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council May 14, 1012 Page 2

3 It was also questioned why the course by the Electrical Contractor s Association, if approved, was not posted as an option on the SCC website. The Manager of Training reported that CSA has been contracted to develop code update training for the Safety Codes Council. The objective would be to have SCOs take the SCC training, but that other courses may be accepted for equivalency. Those wishing to obtain training from sources other than those contracted by SCC must contact the SCC to find out whether the other training is acceptable. Jim Porth reported that not a lot of feedback has been received regarding the preferred method of delivery for the code update training of the Electrical Utility Code. With the AEICTC meeting in Calgary, more feedback will be sought. It was reported that the SCC prefers to offer various methods of training and it is hoped that both on-line and classroom options would be offered. E. Standing Agenda Items F Electrical Utility Code Committee update Jim Porth reported that the EUCC met on March 28, 2012 to determine next steps to move the new code forward. The Chief Electrical Administrator agreed to review proposed changes and provide recommendations. This feedback was circulated to all of the Sub-Committee Chairs and will be discussed further at the upcoming Utilities meeting being held during AEICTC. The intent is to have all electrical codes ready for adoption at the same time. F Oil & Gas Code Committee update Rene Leduc reported that a meeting is scheduled for May 30, 2012 in conjunction with AEICTC. One of the issues to be discussed will be area classification. E Canadian Electrical Code Advisory Committee update Stan Misyk reported that a meeting of the CECAC will likely be held in August 2012 to discuss the five issues brought forward from the EIAA Conference. F AEICTC Task Force Report The AEICTC Chair provided an overview of the agenda for the AEICTC meeting scheduled in Calgary in conjunction with the SCC Conference. The AEICTC agenda will be circulated with the minutes. [Leduc / Paches] Rene Leduc will send the agenda to EIAA to request this be circulated to all of their members. [Leduc] A discussion was held regarding a wider circulation of the agenda to increase participation and it was uncertain whether a contact list has been maintained from previous years. It was clarified that there will be no charge to attend the AEICTC; however, attendees would be responsible for their own travel and accommodations if not a member of the ETC or any sub-committee of the ETC. MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council May 14, 1012 Page 3

4 It was noted that lunch has always been provided for all participants of the AEICTC and will be continued this year. It was suggested that this needs to be reviewed for future meetings and that a discussion be held at the next meeting to re-evaluate the purpose and continuation of AEICTC. E OBIEC Conditional Grant Final Report The agenda item briefing was circulated with the agenda and reviewed. The goal is to have a clear direction from ETC after today s meeting. It was reported that it is believed that only one question remained outstanding. Whatever decision the council makes, this recommendation will be made to the Minister through the Coordinating Committee. A public consultation was a practice of the former government and has even greater emphasis with the new government in place. Several options were identified in the briefing, which were reviewed and a discussion followed. Similar to the CEC code adoption process, it was recommended that the OBIEC be considered without amendments. Rene Leduc reported that industry would be more than willing to assist Alberta Municipal Affairs with the consultation process. Concerns were expressed regarding unapproved equipment and how to ensure safety. It was noted that the objective is safety and this is well articulated in OBIEC. Should an unapproved piece of equipment come into Alberta, the engineer is responsible for ensuring due diligence so that all safety objectives are met. It was noted that there is an existing equipment approval process that is to be used and that an SCO already has the authority to grant a variance to allow a deviation from the code if an equivalent or greater level of safety is provided. A discussion was held regarding the OBIEC in relation to the Safety Management System. It was clarified that these are two separate CSA Standards; one being based on technical aspects and the other based on ISO Standards. CSA C22.4 No. 1 Objectivebased Industrial Electrical Code requires that a Safety Management System be used but does not mandate the use of CSA C22.4 No. 2 OBIEC Safety Management System. The motion being discussed would mandate the use of CSA C22.4 No. 2. Further clarification was provided regarding the accreditation process for Accredited Corporations and their requirements relative to Quality Management Plans. The differences between prescriptive and objective-based codes were explained. It was noted that the building, fire and plumbing disciplines now have both the prescriptive and objective-based codes. Deviations from the prescriptive codes are approved by Safety Codes Officers through alternative solutions, which is the process in place for variances. Rene Leduc / Garfield Lee moved to recommend to the Minister of Municipal Affairs through the Technical Coordinating Committee and Coordinating Committee the development of regulation to adopt the CSA C22.4 No. 1 Objectivebased Industrial Electrical Code to be used in conjunction with the CSA C22.4 No. 2 OBIEC Safety Management System, for use in Alberta; CARRIED with 6 in favour, 5 opposed and 1 abstention MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council May 14, 1012 Page 4

5 F Update of Risk-based Inspections Report It was reported that the project is complete and the report is being reviewed by the Coordinating Committee. The SCC President/CEO and Assistant Deputy Minister will be meeting to determine next steps. F SCC Conference Update A copy of the SCC Conference agenda was circulated as information (Handout #1). It was clarified that the conference fees and travel expenses for all members of the council are paid by the SCC and all members were encouraged to attend. F Proposal for Master Electrician Advisory Group Terms of Reference Kevin Harrison reported that a Terms of Reference are being drafted for review by the Advisory Group at their first meeting scheduled on June 21, A recommendation would then come forward to the ETC to approve the Terms of Reference at the next meeting. F Code of Ethics Committee Draft V of the SCO Code of Ethics was circulated with the agenda package and reviewed. This draft has been approved in principle by the Technical Coordinating Committee and each council is being asked to review and provide feedback. When questioned whether this would be applicable to Master Electricians, it was clarified that this is strictly for Safety Codes Officers. However, a similar document could be discussed by Master Electrician Advisory Group. James Rivait / Rene Leduc moved to support the draft SCO Code of Ethics as presented; CARRIED F. New Business F Reappointment of Daryl Schmidt Kevin Harrison / Bill McAllister moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee the reappointment of Daryl Schmidt to the Electrical Technical Council for a term until January 31, 2015, effective immediately; CARRIED F Adoption of the CEC 22nd Edition The Chief Electrical Administrator reported that his goal is to have the CEC 22 nd Edition, along with the Utilities Code and Oil & Gas Code adopted for use in Alberta with an in force date of January 1, MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council May 14, 1012 Page 5

6 A request has been made from AIT to postpone the in force date until September 2013 to allow time to revise the course material to reflect the changes. It is not believed that is necessary. A brief update was provided on the Safety Codes Act revisions moving forward and the recognized need to expedite the code adoption process. G. Technical Coordinating Committee Report There was nothing new to report as the TCC has not met since the last meeting. The next meeting is scheduled for October H. Next Meeting The remainder of the 2012 meeting schedule was reconfirmed as follows: Monday, September 10, 2012 Calgary 9:30 a.m. Monday, November 19, 2012 Edmonton 9 a.m. Allan Nagel / Rene Leduc moved to adjourn the meeting; CARRIED The meeting was adjourned at 11:30 a.m. MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council May 14, 1012 Page 6

7 -- ACTION ITEMS F Request for a seat on ETC from City of Calgary Being no further action, this item will be removed from the agenda. [Paches] F AEICTC Task Force Report The AEICTC agenda will be circulated with the minutes. [Leduc / Paches] Rene Leduc will send the agenda to EIAA to request this be circulated to all of their members. [Leduc] B. Adoption of Agenda -- MOTIONS -- Bill McAllister / Daryl Schmidt moved to adopt the agenda, as amended; CARRIED C. (a) Adoption of Minutes of the March 12, 2012 Meeting Jim Porth / Garfield Lee moved to adopt the minutes of the March 12, 2012 meeting, as circulated; CARRIED E OBIEC Conditional Grant Final Report Rene Leduc / Garfield Lee moved to recommend to the Minister of Municipal Affairs through the Technical Coordinating Committee and Coordinating Committee the development of regulation to adopt the CSA C22.4 No. 1 Objective-based Industrial Electrical Code to be used in conjunction with the CSA C22.4 No. 2 OBIEC Safety Management System, for use in Alberta; CARRIED with 6 in favour, 5 opposed and 1 abstention F Code of Ethics Committee James Rivait / Rene Leduc moved to support the draft SCO Code of Ethics as presented; CARRIED F Reappointment of Daryl Schmidt Kevin Harrison / Bill McAllister moved to recommend to the Coordinating Committee the reappointment of Daryl Schmidt to the Electrical Technical Council for a term until January 31, 2015, effective immediately; CARRIED H. Next Meeting Allan Nagel / Rene Leduc moved to adjourn the meeting; CARRIED MINUTES: Electrical Technical Council May 14, 1012 Page 7