1 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication HK-DS/11.00/1A The House met at eleven of the clock, MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair. ---

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1 1 HK-DS/11.00/1A The House met at eleven of the clock, MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair. --- PAPERS LAID ON TABLE SHRIMATI ANUPRIYA PATEL: Sir, I lay on the Table (1) A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (4) of Section 18 and Section 19 of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences Act, 1956: (i) (a) Annual Report and Accounts of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Patna, Bihar, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (ii ) (ii i) (iv ) (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute. (a) Fifth Annual Report and Accounts of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Rishikesh, Uttarakhand, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute. (a) Fifth Annual Report and Accounts of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute. (a) Fifth Annual Report and Accounts of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Bhubaneswar, Odisha, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the

2 2 Accounts. (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute. (v) (a) Annual Report and Accounts of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Jodhpur, Rajasthan, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (vi ) (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute. (a) Fifth Annual Report and Accounts of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Raipur, Chhattisgarh, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Institute. (2) Statements (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above. श र र ध म हन स ह : मह दय, म (अ ग र ज़ तथ हहन द म ) भ पट पर र त ह :- ननम नस ख त पत र क एक-एक प रनत (a) Annual Report of the Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR), New Delhi, for the year (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council. (c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above. SHRI VIJAY GOEL: Sir, on behalf of my colleague, Shri Radhakrishnan P., I lay on the Table I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), under sub-

3 3 section (3) of Section 15 of the Government Savings Banks Act, 1873: (1) G.S.R. 28 (E), dated the 17 th January, 2018, notifying that the subscriptions made to the fund on or after the 1 st day of January, 2018 and the balances available under the Sukanya Samriddhi Account Rules, 2016 at the credit of the subscriber shall bear interest at the rate of 8.1 percent per annum. (2) G.S.R. 31 (E), dated the 17 th January, 2018, publishing the National Savings Recurring Deposit (Amendment) Rules, (3) G.S.R. 32 (E), dated the 17 th January, 2018, publishing the National Savings (Monthly Income Account) Amendment Rules, (4) G.S.R. 34 (E), dated the 17 th January, 2018, publishing the National Savings Time Deposit (Amendment) Rules, II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), under sub-section (3) of Section 12 of the Government Savings Certificates Act, 1959: (1) G.S.R. 29 (E), dated the 17 th January, 2018, publishing the Kisan Vikas Patra (Amendment) Rules, (2) G.S.R. 30 (E), dated the 17 th January, 2018, publishing the National Savings Certificates (VIII Issue) (Amendment Rules), III. A copy (in English and Hindi) of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs) Notification No. G.S.R. 33 (E), dated the 17 th January,

4 4 2018, notifying the subscriptions made to the fund on or after the 1 st day of January, 2018 and the balances available under the Public Provident Fund at the credit of the subscriber shall bear interest at the rate of 7.6 percent per annum, under Section 12 of the Public Provident Fund Act, IV. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Economic Affairs), under Section 31 of the Securities and Exchange Board of India Act, 1992:- (1) No. SEBI/LAD-NRO/GN/2018/03, dated the 13 th March, 2018, publishing the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Stock Brokers and Sub- Brokers) (Amendment) Regulations, (2) No. SEBI/LAD-NRO/GN/ /010, dated the 13 th July, 2017, publishing the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Employees' Services) (Third Amendment) Regulations, श र र म क प य दव : मह दय, म (अ ग र ज़ तथ हहन द म ) भ पट पर र त ह :- ननम नस ख त पत र क एक-एक प रनत (a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Council for Advancement of People s Action and Rural Technology (CAPART), New Delhi, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Council. (c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above. SHRI RAJEN GOHAIN: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers: (a) Annual Report and Accounts of Madhepura

5 5 Electric Locomotive Private Limited (MELPL), New Delhi, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Company. (c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above. श र परष त तम र प : मह दय, म आवश यक वस त अधधननयम, 1955 क ध र 3 क उप-ध र (6) क अध न क षष म त र य (क षष, हक ररत और कक न कल य ण षवभ ग) क ननम नस ख त अधध चन ओ क एक-एक प रनत (अ ग र ज़ तथ हहन द म ) भ पट पर र त ह :- (1) S.O. 909 (E), dated the 1 st March, 2018, amending Notification No. S.O (E), dated the 31 st October, 2012, to fix prices of fertilizers as per schedule given therein. (2) S.O. 866 (E), dated the 28 th February, 2018, publishing Corrigendum to the Notification No. S.O. 359 (E), dated the 24 th January, SHRIMATI ANUPRIYA PATEL: Sir, I lay on the Table I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare (Department of Health and Family Welfare), under Section 93 of the Food Safety and Standards Act, 2006: (1) No. Stds/SP(Water & Beverages)/Notif (1)/FSSAI-2016, dated the 19 th September, 2017, publishing the Food Safety and Standards (Food Products Standards and Food Additives) Tenth Amendment Regulations, (2) F. No. Stds/O&F/Notification(6)/FSSAI-2017, dated the 31 st October, 2017, publishing the

6 6 Food Safety and Standards (Licensing and Registration of Food Business) First Amendment Regulations, II. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, under sub-section (4) of Section 20 of the Dentists Act, 1948: (1) No. DE-22(10)-2018, dated the 15 th March, 2018, publishing the "Dental Council of India (Establishment of New Dental Colleges, Opening of New or Higher Course of Study or Training and Increase of Admission Capacity in Dental Colleges) (10 th Amendment) Regulations, 2018". (2) No. DE-87(1)-2018, dated the 15 th March, 2018, publishing the Dental Council of India, Master of Dental Surgery Course (1 st Amendment) Regulations, SHRI MUKHTAR ABBAS NAQVI: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers: (a) Annual Accounts of the Haj Committee of India, Mumbai, for the year , and the Audit Report thereon, under sub- section (4) of Section 34 of the Haj Committee Act, (b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report. (c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above. SHRI MANSUKH L. MANDAVIYA : Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers: (a) Annual Accounts of the National Institute of Pharmaceutical Education and Research (NIPER), Guwahati, for the year , and the

7 7 Audit Report thereon, under sub-section (4) of Section 23 of the National Institute of Pharmaceutical Education and Research (NIPER) Act, (b) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (a) above. SHRIMATI ANUPRIYA PATEL: Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers: (i) (a) Annual Report and Accounts of the Population Research Centre (PRC), Utkal University, Bhubaneswar, for the year , together with the Auditor's Report on the Accounts. (ii ) (b) Review by Government on the working of the above Centre. (c) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (i) (a) above. (a) Annual Report of the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), New Delhi, for the year (b) Annual Accounts of the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), New Delhi, for the year , and the Audit Report thereon. (c) Review by Government on the working of the above Council. (d) Statement giving reasons for the delay in laying the papers mentioned at (ii) (a) and (b) above. SHRI P. P. CHAUDHARY : Sir, I lay on the Table I. A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Notifications of the Ministry of Corporate Affairs, under sub-section (4) of Section 469 of the Companies Act, 2013: (1) G.S.R. 880 (E), dated the 14 th July, 2017,

8 8 publishing the Companies (Meetings of Board and its Powers) Second Amendment Rules, 2017, along with delay statement. (2) G.S.R (E), dated the 20 th December, 2017, publishing the Companies (cost records and audit) Second Amendment Rules, 2017, along with delay statement. (3) G.S.R. 48 (E), dated the 22 nd January, 2018, publishing the Companies (Registration Offices and Fees) Amendment Rules, (4) G.S.R. 49 (E), dated the 22 nd January, 2018, publishing the Companies (Incorporation) Amendment Rules, (5) G.S.R. 51 (E), dated the 22 nd January, 2018, publishing the Companies (Appointment and Qualification of Directors) Amendment Rules, (6) G.S.R. 155 (E), dated the 12 th February, 2018, publishing the Companies (Registered Valuers and Valuation) Amendment Rules, (7) G.S.R. 173 (E), dated the 19 th February, 2018, publishing the Companies (Authorised to Register) Amendment Rules, (8) G.S.R. 174 (E), dated the 19 th February, 2018, publishing the Companies (Audit and Auditors) Amendment Rules, (9) G.S.R. 175 (E), dated the 19 th February, 2018, publishing the Companies (Management and Administration) Amendment Rules, (10) G.S.R. 191 (E), dated the 28 th February, 2018,

9 9 publishing the Companies (Accounts) Amendment Rules, (11) G.S.R. 213 (E), dated the 8 th March, 2018, publishing the Companies (Filing of Documents and Forms in Extensible Business Reporting Language) Amendment Rules, (12) S.O. 529 (E), dated the 5 th February, 2018, exempting certain Government Companies for seven years w.e.f. 1 st April, 2017, under sub-section (6) of Section 129 of the Companies Act, 2013 from recognizing deferred tax assets or deferred tax liability under Accounting Standard 22 and Indian Accounting Standard 12. (13) S.O. 768 (E), dated the 22 nd February, 2018, publishing the Companies (Removal of Difficulties) Order, (14) S.O. 802 (E), dated the 26 th February, 2018, amending Notification No. G.S.R. 463 (E), dated the 5 th June, 2015, to substitute certain entries in the original Notification. II.(1) A copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following papers, under sub-section (5) of Section 18 of the Legal Services Authorities Act, 1987: (a) Annual Accounts of the National Legal Services Authority (NALSA), New Delhi, for the year , and the Audit Report thereon. (b) Statement by Government accepting the above Report. (2) Statement (in English and Hindi) giving reasons for the delay in laying the paper mentioned at (1) above. (ENDS)

10 10 REPORT OF COMMITTEE ON WELFARE OF OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES श र र म न र यण ड ड (र जस थ न) : मह दय, म ड़क पररवहन और र जम गग म त र य ब ध "भ रत य र ष ट र य र जम गग प र धधकरण म र ज़ग र म अन य षपछड़ वग क प रनतननधधत व ननश च त करन और उनक कल य ण क स ए ककय गय उप य" षवषय पर अन य षपछड़ वग क कल य ण ब ध समनत क ब रहव प रनतव दन क एक प रनत (अ ग र ज़ तथ हहन द म ) भ पट पर र त ह ( म प त) REPORTS OF COMMITTEE ON WELFARE OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED TRIBES SHRIMATI WANSUK SYIEM (MEGHALAYA): Sir, I lay on the Table, a copy each (in English and Hindi) of the following Reports of the Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes ( ): (i) Twenty-second Report on Action taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Fifth Report (Sixteenth Lok Sabha) of the Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes on the subject Role of Educational Institutions including Universities, Technical, Medical and Engineering in socioeconomic development of SCs and STs - Implementation of reservation policy in University of Delhi" pertaining to the Ministry of Human Resource Development (Department of Higher Education). (ii) Twenty-third Report on Action taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Thirty-first Report (Fifteenth Lok Sabha) of the Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes on the subject Reservation for and employment of Scheduled Castes and

11 11 Scheduled Tribes in Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) pertaining to the Ministry of Defence (Department of Defence Production). (Ends) STATEMENT RE. IMPLEMENTATION OF TWENTY-SEVENTH REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON COAL AND STEEL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COAL (SHRI HARIBHAI PARTHIBHAI CHAUDHARY) : Sir, I make a statement regarding Status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Twenty-Seventh Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Coal and Steel on Demands for Grants ( ) pertaining to the Ministry of Coal. (Ends) STATEMENT RE. IMPLEMENTATION OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIRST AND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTH REPORTS OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF AYURVEDA, YOGA AND NATUROPATHY, UNANI, SIDDHA AND HOMOEOPATHY (AYUSH) (SHRI SHRIPAD YESSO NAIK) : Sir, I make a statement regarding Status of implementation of recommendations contained in the One Hundred and First and One Hundred and Fifth Reports of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Health and Family Welfare on Demands for Grants ( ) (Demand No. 5) pertaining to the Ministry of AYUSH. (Ends) STATEMENT RE. IMPLEMENTATION OF NINETEENTH REPORT OF DEPARTMENT-RELATED PARLIAMENTARY STANDING COMMITTEE ON LABOUR

12 12 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI MANOJ SINHA): Sir, I make a statement regarding Status of implementation of recommendations contained in the Nineteenth Report of the Department-related Parliamentary Standing Committee on Labour on Deployment of Contract/Casual/Sanitation Workers for perennial nature of jobs in MTNL, pertaining to the Department of Telecommunications. (Ends) DPS-MCM/1B/11.05 MR. CHAIRMAN: (Followed by DPS/1B) Hon. Members, on my own behalf and on behalf of the House, I would like to convey our appreciation and greetings to the Deputy Chairman of the Rajya Sabha who is completing his tenure in July. In his responsibility as Deputy Chairman as well as other responsibilities held by him, at various times during the last 30 years of his Parliamentary career and public life, he has done extremely well; and tried to maintain Parliamentarian standards and practices and contributed to the welfare of the country and the development of the nation. would start, we are not sure. In July, when the Session So, I thought I must take this occasion to appreciate and convey our greetings to a senior Parliamentarian, who is also the Deputy Chairman. Hon. Members, I have a slight problem because of running nose and slight fever since yesterday. normally. That is why, I am not able to speak Today being the last day of the Session of

13 13 the Parliament, I would like to make a brief customary observation what we normally do. MR. CHAIRMAN: VALEDICTORY REMARKS The first Session of the year of this august House and the important two-part Budget Session is coming to a close today. I am pained to note that it turned out to be an eminently forgettable one on account of utter disregard of the mandate of this important Parliamentary institution and its responsibilities and missed opportunities. While it is customary for the Chairman on this day to give a brief account of what has been done and delivered by the House, today, I am compelled to reflect on what could not be done during such an important Session, which is the longest of the year with about 30 working days. This is a sad commentary on the functioning of our Parliamentary institutions reiterating the perception that they are on the decline. Let me now recount what the House was required to do and did not in the end. You were to discuss important General Budget for this financial year and consider and return to the other House, the Appropriation Bills and the Finance Bill. done. It was not This important function, in the end, was deemed to have been done. No legislative work transacted except passing of the Payment of Gratuity (Amendment)

14 14 Bill, 2018 and, that too, without any discussion even as several important Bills awaited your consideration. That was also made possible because of the broad consensus in the House and the Bill could be passed. The hon. Supreme Court's recent verdict on the Act regarding prevention of atrocities against the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes resulted in a certain public perception leading to agitations and even violence in some parts of the country. not discuss that even. We could Proven weaknesses in the management and monitoring of public sector banks including some people running away, led to widespread concerns across the country. But you had different priorities and we could not find time to discuss it. Hon. Members from Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu felt strongly on certain issues of concern to those States. Even these were not discussed. This list can go on. Notices were given by many a Members, but I do not venture to dwell at length for the sake of brevity. Hon. Members and leaders are all aware that I had admitted discussions on all issues of concern amongst various sections of the House. It is beyond my comprehension as to why the House could not take up any of those issues which were of larger public interest. A total of over 124 hours of precious time of this House have been lost due to disruptions as against only 45 hours of functioning.

15 15 Hon. Members, at the end of such a long Session, what is that we can show to the people of our country as our contribution towards addressing their concerns and furthering their genuine aspirations? afraid, nothing. I am As a result, we are all the losers. This includes the Opposition, the Ruling party, the Government. I do not want to make any special mention about this party or that party. All of us, whoever have been responsible for the present situation, have to understand this. what is happening. This is my humble observation of I am pained and I am also sad. Some of you have also written to me; some of you have sent messages also. So, we should not look at it from this angle that this party was responsible or that party was responsible. All of us should collectively introspect for the future. We need to now reflect on how we together ended up in such a lose-lose situation when it could have been a win-win situation. time to wake up and look at the way forward. KSK/SC/11.10/1C CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): (Contd. by KSK/1C) It is All that you did substantially was to discuss and adopt the Motion of Thanks to the President for his Address to the Members of both the Houses at the start of this Session and discuss the Union Budget, You had seen during that period that very good contributions were made by Members from

16 16 different sides. That is also a part of the record. The best performance of this crucial Session, during the 22-day second part, was the three hour and 37 minutes farewell to the retiring Members on the 28 th the last month. of Even that did not come about smoothly as the farewell observations scheduled for a day earlier were also not allowed. But, subsequently, we had it and we have, at least, shown respect to the Members who are retiring from the House after having been with us for a considerable time. This House could have been more discreet and considerate while allowing such basic courtesies to a large number of retiring members. Even that had to be negotiated. Hon. Members, this august House is the Council of States providing for articulation of concerns of the constituent States. This is a primary source of the business agenda for the consideration of the House. But the House also has legislative and deliberative functions which are also important drivers of the agenda of the House. Deliberative function of the House includes taking up issues of larger public importance as well. This House of Elders is required to synthesise all these agendas so that a national agenda and a national perspective is evolved. We had all the time in the world to discuss all such agenda but we did not do it. Instead of integrating all such concerns and discuss them one after the other, we worked at

17 17 cross purposes. In the process, we let down the nation, the States and the people, as I personally feel. I am disturbed to note a total breakdown in communication among various sections of the House, which was the root of the prolonged stalemate, ruined this important Session. This is a lesson for all of us that we must have interaction on a regular basis, discuss things among ourselves before coming to the House. This is not good for our Parliamentary democracy, about which our country has come to acquire a place of pride. Our country had won the battle for self-governance after a long freedom struggle. We are supposed to have matured after about seven decades of our brave experiments with Parliamentary democracy and self-governance. But the functioning of our Legislatures do not seem to be assuring enough. This House of Elders needs to lead by example in strengthening the Parliamentary democracy and sustaining the trust and confidence of the people in it. This takes me to the days of intense debate in the Constituent Assembly over the need and justification for a Second Chamber. Please hear me carefully. There was a discussion in the Constituent Assembly over the need and justification of a Second Chamber, that is, the Council of States. The opinion was divided

18 18 against and in favour of such a Chamber before bicameralism was adopted and this House finally came into being in I am afraid that the fears expressed about the need of this House at that time are now revisiting us and even coming true. I hope it is not so. For the benefit of a large number of new Members, who took Oath in the last couple of days, let me briefly recall what was said about this House then. This is for knowledge only. During the Constituent Assembly debates on the need for a Council of States, some Members feared that it would prove to be a 'clog in the wheel of progress' involving expenses and not making much contribution. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of the country, who was among the important Members of the Drafting Committee of the Constitution, that was set up for reporting on the structure and function of the future Legislature of our country, had feared in 1936 that a Second Chamber (Council of States) would check any forward tendencies of the Lower House and will be reactionary. Are we making Nehruji's worst fears come true? I hope we are not. We should not, for the sake of our Parliamentary democracy and the people. On balance of considerations after a detailed debate, it was finally decided to have this Second Chamber. Even Nehruji agreed, after Shri Ananthasayanam Ayyangar and so many other people also put forth their points of

19 view. 19 The advocates of this Chamber had some lofty ideals to be served by it. Late Shri Ananthasayanam Ayyangar asserted, "It is necessary to have another House where the genius of the people may have full play. GSP-SC/1D/11.15 (Contd. by 1D/GSP) MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): Whatever hasty legislation is passed by the Lower House may be checkmated by the go slow movement of the Upper House". That was the opinion given by veteran Shri Ananthasayanam Ayyangar, and also another veteran late Shri Gopalaswami Ayyangar, during the debate in the Constituent Assembly on the 'Report of the Union Constitution Committee, said that "The most that we expect the Second Chamber to do is perhaps to hold dignified debates on important issues and to delay legislation which might be the outcome of the passions of the moment until the passions have subsided." That is what is expected from us. Because that House is directly elected by the people, they have the pressure coming from local constituencies and people whereas here, in the Upper House, we have enough time to discuss issues dispassionately and coolly. expressed. That was the opinion The first Vice President of India and the first Chairman of this august House, late Dr. Sarvepalli

20 20 Radhakrishnan, said on 13 th May, 1952 that the justification for this House depends on the contributions of the Members in respect of the legislative and deliberative functions. Addressing the Members after being felicitated, he said "So, it is a test to which we are all submitted. We are for the first time starting under the parliamentary system, with a second Chamber in the Centre and we should try to do everything in our power to justify to the public of this country that a Second Chamber is essential to prevent hasty legislation. We should discuss with dispassion and detachment proposals put before us." Radhakrishnan said. This is what Dr. Hon. Members, are we letting the genius of this august House express itself? Let us ponder over it. Where are the dignified debates which happened earlier? Are we conducting ourselves in a manner that political passions clouding a legislation are allowed to cool down? Are we demonstrating dispassion and detachment? This august House was envisaged to enable a reasoned and quiet consideration of Bills by checking hasty legislation by the other House by slowing it at the best. I may recall some instances. Some of us are of the opinion that even after the Lok Sabha passes a Bill, even after the

21 21 Standing Committee approves it also, sometimes, we send the Bill back to the Select Committee. The Select Committee consisting of our own Members apply their mind, and, through their wisdom, make recommendations and then the Bill comes back to us. That is the beauty of the system. beauty, we also have a duty. With this And if beauty and duty are added, we can make our system mighty. That is my appeal to all of you. taking further time... (Interruptions)... So, without SHRI SUKHENDU SEKHAR RAY: The Government is (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: There is scope for such discussion also, if you have discussion. (Interruptions) You should instead dispel fears expressed by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, who despite reservations about the utility of this House supported it. Nehru ji also supported it at the end and said that its coming into being will be in the interest of the country. You need to rise to the expectations of those who strongly justified the need for this House in the Constituent Assembly. The main purpose behind the creation of a legislative structure for our country was to provide a democratic forum for people's representatives and to restore the political and social unity of our country.

22 22 It is in the hands of the hon'ble Members to choose whether to do justice to the lofty ideals with which this Chamber was created or to strengthen the fears of those who had reservations about its utility. In my view, the best way forward is to debate and decide instead of disrupt and derail. Demonstrate your wisdom and concern and not placards and other things in the House. One Member was whispering; it is a little sensitive. If the Government is at fault, or if somebody feels that if somebody else is at fault, the best occasion is to take up that issue in the House and then corner the people concerned for that mistake or that shortcoming. Every individual and institution needs to seriously reflect and introspect from time to time, failing which they degenerate and decline. We have huge stakes in our parliamentary institutions. Let us make a success of them. I earnestly hope that all the hon'ble Members would appreciate my anguish over the way this important Session turned out to be. Hope is what sustains all of us, including me and you, and, let us hope for the better when we all meet next time. I once again want to make it very clear that showing placards, banners or party flags or shouting slogans should be totally avoided, not

23 23 only inside the House even outside the House. Only outside the premises, one can do it. SHRI ANAND SHARMA: You ban it. MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, I agree with you. Members also told me. Many other I am very clear. I think, when something is happening already, taking a strong action suddenly is not right. This is very easy. Some people are asking, what is the Chairman doing? There is an editorial also. You know, Chairman can take action but is the action a final solution? SK-PRB/1E/11.20 MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD.): (Contd. By SK/1E) We should all think about it. It is not that I don t have that much courage or conviction to take action. You are all my fellow Members. People have elected you. You are as much important as me or the Ministers. So, that being the case, I thought I should make one more appeal to all of you to see that next time we adhere to what we had promised on the occasion of fifty years of independence as a solemn pledge and cooperate. Hon. Members, I would like to once again thank the Deputy Chairman, the Members of the Panel of Vice- Chairmen, the Secretary-General, the leaders of all political parties for whatever cooperation they have given, and also the Leader of the House. The Leader of the House is not well, I have to inform you. It will

24 24 take some time. There is nothing to worry on that count. He will become normal. He will come back to the House. SOME HON. MEMBERS: Sir, please convey our best wishes. MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. He is the Leader of the House and one of the most valuable Members. I will definitely convey the best wishes of the entire House. I would like to..(interruptions).. You have been a Minister. good. Please, Mr. Chowdary. Sitting and talking is not Everybody should not take any comment made in response to a separate thing. generally for all of us. That is a comment As I have so much liberty with many of you who have worked with me for twenty yearsthirty years in public life, sometimes I take liberty and take the names. That does not mean only he or she is at fault. This is for all of us. So, as the Chairman, I have that pious responsibility. I would like to thank the officers, the staff of the Secretariat for the help and cooperation they have given. Vande Mataram. Now, let us rise for (The National Song, "Vande Mataram", was then played.) MR. CHAIRMAN: The House stands adjourned sine die The House then adjourned sine die at twenty-three minutes past eleven of the clock.