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1 To: From: Subject: Attendees: Rules Committee members Sam Stonerock Fall 2009 meeting minutes Held Dec 8 th and 9th in Rialto California and hosted by SCE See last page for list of attendees General Session December 8th Meeting called to order by Chairman Sam Stonerock at 08:05 a.m. Pat reviewed the current list of primary and alternate members. Self introductions E-Board Updates Sam very briefly summarized the history and role of the Rules Committee in proposing rule changes. One of the challenges for the committee is finding a forum with which to submit new rules or rule changes to the Commission. The current OII s and Fire Safety OIR are in the forefront of the major utilities, communication providers and Commission. Sam reviewed the rule changes and ordering paragraphs from the Phase 1 Fire Safety OIR. Many of the recent rule changes were non-technical in nature. Sam reviewed the letter sent to ALJ Kenney on Oct. 6 th, 2009 on behalf of the Rules Committee. The Committee is prepared to play a role or participate in the Phase 2 Fire Safety OIR provided the Committee has clear direction. The Committee needs to discuss our role and whether we are satisfied with that role. Sam reviewed the Scope of the Phase 2 Fire Safety OIR. The Rules Committee is a technical committee and, like Phase 1, many of the Phase 2 in scope items are nontechnical in nature. The group had an open discussion of the viability of the Rules Committee going forward and the involvement in the upcoming OIR. The Committee needs to be able to act more quickly to be engaged in the workshop process. RC_Mtg Minutes( )_Final Draft 1 12/9/09

2 . Election Results Sam Stonerock (SCE) is re-elected to Chairman on an interim basis Roy Boyer (Time Warner Cable) elected as Vice Chairman Pat Geoffrey (PG&E) is re-elected as Secretary on an interim basis Steve Rodriguez (T-Mobile) elected as Subcommittee II Chairman Continued open forum discussion on the role and focus of the Rules Committee. Sam summarized the discussion: The Rules Committee will continue to develop new rules and proposed rule changes irrespective of the ongoing OII s and OIR s. The E-Board will consider development of schedule/cycle for submitting rule changes. Lunch Update from E-Board Review of By-Laws is overdue and require updating, particularly the voting process. E-Board established a draft schedule with the goal of having a set of proposed rule changes ready by December Committee will work with the objective of submitting rule changes on a 3 year cycle Subcommittees, by April or May of 2010, will report to the main committee with a set of proposed rule changes; Rule, Strikeout and Underline, Final rule and Rationale. These will be posted on the website. Main committee members will provide feedback on proposed rules. Subcommittees will review and incorporate feedback and at the Fall Meeting the final rules will be reviewed. Approximately 45 days will be allowed for votes to be returned following the September (fall) meeting. An e-ballot process will be developed. E-Board does not feel that the committee needs consensus for a rule to be advanced from the committee to the Commission. Must have a quorum of members voting and, with the quorum, must have 75% approval. Ballots will be sent to the principal with a cc to the alternate. Completed ballots will be returned to the secretary with a cc the chairman. RC_Mtg Minutes( )_Final Draft 2 12/9/09

3 Dave provided the treasurer report. The committee has $ in the account excluding today s fees. Pat to distribute the spring meeting minutes. Main meeting adjourned at 1:35. Subcommittee Meetings Subcommittee III Meeting was facilitated by Ken Johnson Ken presented the revised pole stepping rules 51.7, 61.7 and Subcommittee I and II meetings continued until 5:00 December 9 Subcommittee I and II meetings held from 8-10 th General Session General session main committee closing comments at 10:25 a.m. Sam opened - Subcommittee Reports - spring meeting location - Upcoming Pre-hearing conference Subcommittee I report - Stan Carlson covered for Greg Reviewed Rule 58.1 A (1) and addition of an exception that would allow for equipment to extend beyond the centerline of the pole on non-climbable poles; LADWP proposal Reviewed various options to provide for reduced clearances from guys to conductors by use of insulating rods/links. Contrast with NESC requirements D 1 thru 4 - Revised rule to clarify requirements for metallic operating rods and to provide clearances for non-metallic operating rods. Changed 58.3D from Operating Mechanisms to Operating Rods; PG&E proposal Rules for rack and extended rack 54.9 and 54.12, spacing and requirements for spreader brackets are inconsistent; LADWP proposal. Reviewed Rule for clearance of multi--conductor secondary passing streetlights; LADWP proposal. RC_Mtg Minutes( )_Final Draft 3 12/9/09

4 Ongoing work - Development of a climbing space work group. The workgroup should be composed of two representatives from Sub 1 and 2, Ken Johnson and Greg Walters to chair the group. Subcommittee II report by Steve Rodriguez Continued with review of Section 8 and open wire references and also reviewing section 8 in entirety. Reviewed Rule 94.3 and supporting elements Reviewed Table 2 case 21. Review footnote ww Subcommittee III report by Ken Johnson Reviewed pole stepping rules and specifically the location of lowest step. Will review title 8 requirements and also consider making pole steps optional. Sam Stonerock led the open discussion: Committee needs to create a tracking sheet for proposed and pending rule change proposals. There is a need to review past meeting minutes to be sure we haven t dropped any proposals. Consider including carryover items from 2001 rule making. Next meeting dates for North meeting Jerome offered CCTA offices in Sacramento. Send other possible locations to Pat E-Board will establish tentative meeting dates in April or May Upcoming prehearing conference We anticipate that we could be asked about what the RC is capable or prepared to do during the workshops. Need a clear concise item to work on or a specific deliverable. E-Board will consider developing a position statement Meeting adjourned at 11:10 RC_Mtg Minutes( )_Final Draft 4 12/9/09

5 General Order 95/128 Rules Committee Meeting Attendees 1 AT&T Gail Dafun 2 CCTA Jerome Candelaria 3 Cox Communications Paul Dye 4 NextG Networks Alan Young 5 Sprint Nextel Cory Autrey 6 Time Warner Cable Ron Boyer 7 T-Mobile Steve Rodriquez 8 Verizon Wireless Malcolm Brown 9 City of Anaheim Matt Hematabadi 10 IID Ken Johnson 11 LADWP Darrell Buckley 12 LADWP Dennis Walls 13 Modesto Irrigation District Stan Carlson 14 PG&E Pat Geoffrey 15 City of Palo Alto Rick Richards 16 City of Pasadena Sheldon Cox 17 City of Redding Darrell Christensen 18 City of Redding Sean McCall 19 SMUD Ed Stockman 20 SMUD Dave Brown 21 SDG&E Greg Walters 22 SCE Sam Stonerock 23 SCE Bob Patterson 24 CPSD North/South Ray Fugere 25 BMS Communications Tom Dell RC_Mtg Minutes( )_Final Draft 5 12/9/09

GENERAL ORDER 95 / 128 RULES COMMITTEE

GENERAL ORDER 95 / 128 RULES COMMITTEE To: From: Subject: Attendees: Rules Committee members Sam Stonerock Fall 2013 meeting minutes Held November 5 th and 6 th in Anaheim California and hosted by Josh Mathisen (ATT) See last page for list