GENERAL ORDER 95 / 128 RULES COMMITTEE

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1 To: From: Subject: Attendees: Rules Committee members Sam Stonerock Spring 2014 Meeting Minutes Held May 20 th and 21 st in Tahoe Vista, California and hosted by Casey Kelley and Liberty Utilities West See last page for list of attendees General Session May 20 th Main Committee meeting was called to order by Chairman Sam Stonerock at 8:15. Introductions. Sam Stonerock gave a regulatory briefing on current CPUC Rulemakings and Petitions (PowerPoint slides attached.) R Fire Safety. R General Order 174. R kv Rail Systems. R Right-of-Way Rules CMRS. P General Order 95 Revisions submitted by this committee. R CPUC Natural Gas and Electric Safety Citation Programs. National Electrical Safety Code. NFPA 70E. NERC Standard CIP Substation Physical Security. Subcommittee Reports. Subcommittee I Greg Walters discussed agenda items. Climbing space and establish a working group. Steel poles and transformers. Fiberglass rod insulators for guys. Subcommittee II Josh Mathisen discussed agenda items. Review references to Open Wire that were not included in the petition. GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 1 5/21/2014

2 Subcommittee III Doug Nolan discussed agenda items. Load and Resistance Factor Design (LRFD) presentation by SDGE. Intrusive test data for pole loading calculations. Bio-retention that was brought up by Greg Walters. Sam Stonerock discussed the Executive Board s responses to Administrative Law Judge Kenney questions in regards to P that are on the CPUC s website. They appear as though they are California Cable and Telecommunication Association responses, but they were filed by Jerome Candelaria on behalf of this committee. Old Business General Orders 95 and 128 Rules Committee Website discussion by Jeremy Harmon. Website will have public assessable side and a secure side. Dennis Walls will work on updating the membership list and application records so logins can be assigned. Jeremy Harmon will send the costs for the website. Treasurer Report by Dave Brown. Current balance is $ New Business. The Secretary position may be opening soon, due to Dennis Walls s pending retirement at the beginning of Main Committee adjourned at 9:21. Subcommittee III meeting was called to order by Doug Nolan at 9:42. SDGE and EDM gave their presentation on LRFD and a draft of GO 95 Section IV (PowerPoint slides and draft GO 95 Section IV attached.) Discussion points: LRFD is modern method, Allowable Stress Design (ASD) is no longer taught in schools. NESC transitioned to LRFD in its 2012 version. LRFD may be able to be discussed in future rulemaking if the committee s petition for a rulemaking is granted. Darren Weim and Andy Stewart will circulate examples of calculations illustrating LRFD and ASD methods. GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 2 5/21/2014

3 SDGE will schedule a webinar on the different methods, including Andy Stewart s EPRI presentation. Greg Walter s presented bio-retention facilities (drawing attached) which are designed to capture run-off water that can then be returned to the water table. After a lengthy discussion, Sam Stonerock thought GO 128, Rule 31.4A1 may apply, since foreign substructures are mentioned. Greg Walter s asked if others could check to see if their companies have a standard for them. Item was tabled for possible discussion at the next meeting. Doug Nolan initiated a discussion on how to best coordinate the sharing of intrusive inspection results so they can be incorporated into pole loading calculations. SCE has been facilitating pole loading seminars, where the goal is develop, inasmuch as possible a uniform set of standards/properties that can be used by utilities to perform pole loading calculations. Sam Stonerock proposed a sub-workgroup be formed to address to address intrusive inspection criteria. Doug Nolan volunteered to take the lead on scheduling the discussions. The following companies expressed interest in participating: Comcast; PGE; LADWP; SCE; SDGE; Cox; AT&T and Verizon. Casey Kelley brought up the climbing space sub-workgroup that had been discussed at previous meetings. Casey volunteered to take the lead on scheduling the discussions. The following companies expressed interest in participating: Liberty Utilities West; PGE; LADWP; Comcast; City of Palo Alto; City of Roseville; SDGE; Cox; AT&T, Verizon and IBEW Local Subcommittee III Adjourned at 11:30. Subcommittee I meeting was called to order by Greg Walters at 1:15. Carryover items. Insulated guy rod (fish stick) rule. Dennis Walls reviewed the draft rule that was discussed at previous meetings, and circulated the modified drawing. The group determined a minor modification is still needed. Dennis Walls will have the drawing modified and send out to the group. There were discussions on the insulating rating of the rod. The group felt the rule proposal is ready to go, once the drawing is modified. Metallic poles and transformers GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 3 5/21/2014

4 There was a discussion about the placement of transformers on metallic poles. Subcommittee II meeting was called to order by Josh Mathisen at 1:15. May 20 th Subcommittee I reconvened and was called to order by Casey Kelley at 8:06. Casey Kelley ran the meeting in Greg Walters s absence. Climbing space rules consolidation. The group reviewed climbing space obstructions. Bolt covers. Risers. Stand-off brackets, a definition should be added. Equipment over 18 in height should be placed on stand-off brackets. There should be a description of what is allowed opposite the climbing space, so that workers can easily place their safety straps around the pole. The description should include language that will allow for a reasonable amount of travel up and down the pole. Reviewed the definition of a non-climbable pole. Upcoming Fed-OSHA rules for fall protection were discussed. The group watched a video that was taken at the Incident Prevention seminar about the subject. A link to the video will be forwarded with the minutes of this meeting. There was a discussion about added language about bucket truck access to poles. Some poles have limited access to the work areas for bucket trucks, due to crossing lines, etc. Sam Stonerock asked if other utilities allowed bonds between electric and communication facilities. Most companies responded that they do not allow it. The item will be discussed at the next meeting. A PowerPoint on the installation of Hendrix cable in SDGE s service territory was viewed. There was a discussion about the required conductor clearances. GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 4 5/21/2014

5 Main Committee closing was called to order by Chairman Sam Stonerock at 11:08. Reports. Subcommittee I report provided by Casey Kelley. Reviewed climbing space and obstructions. Climbing space is currently dependent on type of construction, it should be more uniform. New Fed-OSHA climbing requirements were reviewed. Hendrix cable clearance requirements were discussed. Fiberglass guy insulator rule is nearly ready for submittal. Discussion on non-climbable pole definition. Subcommittee II report provided by Josh Mathisen. Discussed the intrusive inspection working group that was formed. Clean-up of remaining open wire items, three other rules were revised and may be presented at the rulemaking by a sponsor or will go back to this group for a vote. Guidelines and cooperation between power and communication companies in regards to the grounding and bonding of facilities was discussed. Subcommittee III report provided by Doug Nolan. LRFD was discussed and there will be follow-up meetings. A stair-step approach for implementation may be a possibility. Bio-retention facilities and clearances were discussed. Intrusive testing sub-group was formed. Old Business. Official list for members needs to be updated, to ensure that applications have been submitted. Dennis Walls to work on it. Rules Committee website Costs will be around $500-$600 dollars for 5-year domain name, and 3- year hosting. Jeremy will provide invoice. The funds will be drawn from the checking account. There is no need for a special assessment. GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 5 5/21/2014

6 The meeting fee will be $15 dollars for future meetings. The fee is used to offset: plaques; website; and at times supplement meeting costs for the host company. Casey Kelley asked about the by-laws which are currently a 2009 draft. The bylaws include references to: Activity Director which is actually the Treasurer. Administration of votes. Electronic voting. Attendance required at meetings to be considered active. Elections and term extensions. New Business. Rules Committee Petition for Rule Changes Consumer Federation has been granted Party status. Safety and Enforcement Division has replied to our responses. Sam Stonerock asked the members if the members have any opposition to the Executive Board of this Committee responding to the CPUC on behalf of the members. The members were polled and the Executive Board has the authority to act on behalf of the Committee. Sam Stonerock mentioned that the Executive Board members are not representing their individual companies when they respond to the CPUC. Jerome Candelaria mentioned that there is a practical value in the Executive Board responding to the CPUC, due to the short timeframes allotted for responses. Individual companies will be able to weigh-in on the issues if a Rulemaking is granted. Doug Nolan mentioned that ALJ Kenney should know that this Committee is diverse and represents a broad cross-section of companies. Thanks were giving to Jerome Candelaria for preparing and submitting the responses to the CPUC on behalf of this Committee. Thanks were given to Casey Kelley and Liberty Utilities for hosting the meeting. Main Committee adjourned at 11:46. GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 6 5/21/2014

7 G.O. 95/128 Rules Committee Meeting Attendees May 20 th and 21 st Tahoe Vista, California First Name Last Name Company Josh Mathisen AT&T Jerome Candelaria CCTA Luis Uribe City of Palo Alto Scott Williams City of Palo Alto Tom Pontes City of Roseville Doug Nolan Comcast Jillian Harvey Comcast Paul Dye Cox Communications Derek Fong CPUC SED Sonny Nunez Crown Castle Andy Stewart EDM International Marty Wilcox Freedom Wilcon Landis Marttila IBEW Local 1245 Mark Gappinger Imperial Irrigation District Dennis Walls LADWP Steve Brown LADWP Casey Kelley Liberty Utilities Marty Gonzales MID Dave Boese Pacific Power Pat Geoffrey PGE Doug Schmaderer PWP Darrell Christensen Redding Electric Utility Ben Goehring Redding Electric Utility John Deng SCE Sam Stonerock SCE Greg Walters SDGE Darren Weim SDGE Dave Brown SMUD Jeremy Harmon TMobile Steve Trevino Truckee Donner PUD Tracey Province Verizon Jerry Bascom Verizon Wireless GO RC 2014 Spring Meeting Minutes_ Doc 7 5/21/2014