Meeting Minutes GADSTF Event Subgroup Conference Call

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1 Meeting Minutes GADSTF Event Subgroup Conference Call 10:30 12:00 pm Eastern Conference Call Introduction The meeting began with a welcome by Robin Siewert, Event Subgroup Leader. Mike Curley then acknowledged the NERC Antitrust Guidelines and read the NERC public notice required for all NERC conference calls. The public notice for all NERC conference calls states: Participants are reminded that this conference call is public. The access number was posted on the NERC website and widely distributed. Speakers on the call should keep in mind that the listening audience may include members of the press and representatives of various governmental authorities, in addition to the expected participation by industry stakeholders. Robin briefly went over the agenda (Attachment 1) for today s conference call, including the scope for the events subgroup team (Attachment 2). Our basic task is to determine if reporting of GADS data should be mandatory for all generating units to make the grid more reliable. If the decision is made to make it mandatory, then what part of the events elements should be mandatory? Robin began by polling those on the call as to who does and does not now report their data to NERC. Mike Davis of the Sacramento Municipal Utility District said that they report their data to their balancing authority but not directly to NERC. Dean Ellis of Dynegy stated that they report to their ISO. Howard Ferguson of NextEra Energy said that some report and some do not. Lester Gant at TVA stated that they report for their nuclear and coal fired units, but not presently for their hydro and gas turbines. Robin proposed that if we did make reporting mandatory, that we might want to consider unit size as one of the criteria for reporting. There was a considerable amount of discussion on this matter. One proposal on the size criteria was 20 mva at a 0.85 power factor for a unit or 75 mva at a 0.85 power factor for a plant. Peter Wong, of ISO New England, was the only planner on the call. Peter felt that we need to get down to a lower level, maybe 5

2 MW. Others agreed that small units could be important in voltage support for the grid and that the concept of a minimum size was a good idea. Other discussion centered on the types of units that should be reported to NERC, including coal fired, nuclear, gas turbines, renewables, hydro, diesel, etc. INPO has been invited to come to the meeting in Atlanta, so we would need to find out what their requirements are. When Robin polled the team members on where they would stand in making reporting mandatory, no one was totally opposed to the idea. Albert Hicks of Southern Company, did have some reservations about how it would be handled. Mike Curley of NERC indicated that if the decision was made to make reporting mandatory, that it would probably be implemented under section 1600 of Rules of Procedure (Attachment 3). It is not intended to make this something that is auditable. With an average of 380,000 records per year, NERC depends on the reporters to be the eyes and ears as far as auditing. If reporting does become mandatory, then it would probably be 4-6 months before it is put into place (July 2011), with reporting beginning in January Action Items By the close of business on Friday, September 3, Robin would like everyone to provide their input on whether reporting should be mandatory and if so to what event reporting elements should be mandatory. She will compile this list to have it ready for our next meeting. Mike s staff will work with our group in providing the Doodle tool to help schedule our next two meetings. Adjournment The conference call was adjourned by Robin Siewert. GADS Task Force Events Subgroup Conference Call 2

3 Attendance List Name Company Representing Robin Siewert Brian Hollinghaus Lester Gant Mike Curley Howard Ferguson Lou DeLuca Steve MacDonald Mike Davis Katie Ege Ben Legrange Dean Ellis Peter Wong Matthew Cinadr Albert Hicks E. ON U.S. Electric Power Research Institute Tennessee Valley Authority NERC Staff NextEra Energy FPL Energy Oglethorpe Power Corporation Sacramento Municipal Utility District Great River Energy GE Energy Dynegy ISO New England, Inc. NYSDPS Southern Company Services GADS Task Force Events Subgroup Conference Call 3

4 Meeting Agenda GADSTF Event Subgroup Conference Call 10:30 12:00 p.m. Eastern Dial-In: (866) Access Code: Welcome (Robin Siewert, Event Subgroup Leader) NERC Anti-Trust Guidelines (Mike Curley, NERC Staff) 1. Introduction to the Document Event Subgroup Scope a. Discussion of goals and process to meet time lines b. Sub-Group Deadlines i. Complete all conference call/web meetings by Friday September 17 ii. Complete Report of Event Subgroup to GADSTF by Wednesday September 22 c. Proposed attack on the work i. Discuss purpose ii. Discuss activities from Scope d. Need for Communicating to Entire GADSTF 2. Q&A i. Secretaries of each group will take notes and report the recommendations and findings to all GADSTF members. ii. iii. 3. Next Steps 4. Adjourn Secretaries should review and have the approval of their sub-group before sending the minutes of their calls to the entire GADSTF GADSTF to all members: i. Agree on Next Meeting(s) GADS Task Force Events Subgroup Conference Call 4

5 Generating Availability Data Systems Task Force Wind Team Scope Purpose The Event Sub-group (ES) of the Generating Availability Data System (GADS) Task Force (TF) is tasked with determining how much, if any, of GADS event records should be considered mandatory based upon looking at the reliability of the whole grid. Otherwise, if the decision is to leave event data as voluntary, determine if it is sufficient to meet the needs of the industry. Background GADS has been collected by NERC since Over 11 million outage records have been collected for benchmarking purposes and in support of bulk power system reliability. There are many uses of the data for plant engineers, generating staff members, generation dispatch, system planners, ISO members, transmission, architect engineers (for new generation), government agencies, and others. There are numerous free, public reports issued showing the performance of various types of generating plants (fossil, nuclear, gas turbine, etc.). A similar database of information is now being collected by Transmission (TADS) and it is mandatory. Another database for Demand Response is DADS which is in Phase I of voluntary, but is planned to end with Phase II being mandatory. Whereas data submittal of GADS has been voluntary since inception and about 77% of North American electric Generator Owners (GO) provide GADS data to NERC. Activities Review the uses of GADS data for the following: Has GADS event data been useful in the past? Is it essential now? Is it worth the time, cost, and effort to continue collecting the event data? If there were no GADS, would it be missed? How important is GADS event data to supporting and improving the bulk power system reliability? What is the level of the event data that should or should not be considered mandatory to support the bulk power system reliability? Membership The ES will be comprised of the GADSTF members and Observers that volunteered to help on this sub-group (18 in total plus the assigned NERC staff member). Governance All conference calls and web meetings will be completed by Friday September 17, A report of the ES will be sent to the GADSTF by Wednesday, September 22, The ES will report their recommendations and findings to the GADSTF at the face-to-face GADSTF meeting September 30-October 1, Meetings Conference calls and Web meetings will be used to address focused topics. GADS Task Force Events Subgroup Conference Call 5

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