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1 Date Distributed: 13 April 2010 NATIONAL BOARD INSPECTION CODE COMMITTEE MINUTES Meeting of NBIC Sub-Group on Inspection and Repair of Locomotive Boilers April 2010 Meeting at Strasburg, PA. These minutes are subject to approval and are for committee use only. They are not to be duplicated or quoted for other than committee use. The National Board of Boiler & Pressure Vessel Inspectors 1055 Crupper Avenue Columbus, Ohio Phone: (614) FAX: (614) Meeting convened at: 4:12 pm 12 April 2010

2 Members present: Reetz, Janssen, McCormack, Yuill, Butler, Ray, Moedinger, Withuhn, Jackson, Stone, Schueler, Conrad, Scerbo, Franzen 1. Agenda There was a motion to adopt agenda by Mr. McCormack. The motion was seconded by Mr. Butler. The motion was unanimously approved. 2. Minutes There was a motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting by Mr. Jackson. The motion was seconded by Mr. Reetz. The motion was unanimously approved. 3. Announcements Errata Part 2, pg. 106, S l) Should read Rivet head wastage for riveted joints in tension shall be determined by measuring h in Fig. S l, where h shall not be less than where:... Part 3, pg. 111, materials list has deleted Pipe SA-106, SA-53, seamless; has deleted Bronze castings SB-61, SB-62, Sb-148; Bolts & Studs SA-307 A or B; Part 3, pg. 111, S d), last sentence should be stress and not strength Part 3, pg. 119, Fig. S b should be renamed; Fig. S a should be moved to arch tube page; Robin is taking care of the errata. 4. Old Business a. NBIC negative votes - none b. Technical Library Update There was a motion to close the Technical Library Update by Mr. Moedinger. The motion was seconded by Mr. Withuhn. The motion was unanimously approved. c. Staybolts and Flue Tools A general discussion ensued in the ESC meeting regarding staybolt and flue tools; It was generally agreed that emphasis should be on the application and not the tools; Staybolt material and application was discussed and it was decided that this may be a subject that can be included in the NBIC; Secretary will put it in the NBIC agenda; This item was not officially opened so the secretary is removing it from the ESC agenda; nothing new as of 11/08; Dick Stone will make an initial draft for 11/09 meeting, as of 3/09; no discussion 11/09; no discussion 4/10; d. Boiler tube seal welding: NB philosophy has changed to allow more explanatory items in the NBIC; to that end it was agreed to include the text from the current ASME Section I on flue application; a submission will be prepared for the 11/07 meeting; nothing new as of 11/08; Dick Stone will draft an initial document for 11/09 meeting, as of 3/09; no discussion 11/09; No discussion 4/10; e. FRA inspector class. None scheduled for Nothing new as of 11/05; Rob Castiglione indicated the interest of FRA for recurring training for its inspectors as of 3/06; no report as of 11/06; discussion and Page 2 of 5

3 recommendations for future training as of 3/07; class set for week of 4 May 2008 as of 11/07; nothing new as of 3/08; Nothing new as of 11/08; Nothing new as of 3/09; none scheduled for 2010 as of 11/09; no classes for 2010; f. Recommended practice issues items to be considered; Prioritization; Results of committee and guest poll: 1. Unqualified repair personnel & organizations Yuill, McCormack 2. Standards for boiler surveys - Butler 3. Wrong materials used all applications - Jackson 4. Riveting practices fit up, prep, eccentric holes & tapers - Stone 5. Welding seams and rivets to stop leaks - Griner 6. Head of flexible staybolt welded to rusted off remnant of old sleeve - Stone 7. Understanding of stresses that cause staybolt failure - Moedinger 8. Material documentation - Jackson 9. Taking boiler UT readings only at the minimum requirement - Butler 10. Welding weld caps to sleeves - Franzen 11. Welding by unqualified personnel - Griner 12. Full penetration welded bolt countersink prep - Janssen 13. Improper threaded staybolt application overdriving, oil on threads, no bucking - Moedinger 14. Improper flue application over rolling, incorrect type expanders Conrad, Lee 15. Seal welding over oily surfaces - Janssen 16. Extent of pad welding too much - Griner 17. Materials and skills not up to any standard - Jackson Nothing new as of 11/08; assigned tasks at 3/09 meeting; nothing new as of 11/09; Nothing new as of 4/10 g. Operating procedures for NBIC Steam Locomotive subgroup Adopted as presented at 3/09 meeting; no discussion at 11/09 meeting; See Action Item NB attached; There was a motion to submit Action Item NB by Mr. Moedinger and seconded by Mr. Janssen. The motion was unanimously approved. Voted 12 affirmative, 0 negative, 0 abstaining, 0 not voting Discussion and Progress Report: See Action Item NB attached Motion to submit Action Item NB McCormack, 2 nd Butler Discussion and Progress Report: Main committee wants reference to safety relief valves in the inspection section and the repair section. Bob Reetz will inform the main committee that we are working on this issue. Discussion and Progress Report: Flue application procedures Stone Discussion and Progress Report: Rivets Stone Discussion and Progress Report: Ferrules Stone Discussion and Progress Report: Staybolts Stone Discussion and Progress Report: This task group has been requested by ASME to write a locomotive construction code for ASME Section I; ASME ; NB New Business Discussion and Progress Report: See Action Item NB attached Page 3 of 5

4 Motion to submit Action Item NB McCormack, 2 nd Butler Guest questions - none Next meeting 31 October, 1 November 2010, Alamosa, CO Adjournment 11:48 am, 13 April 2010; Motion - to adjourn Conrad, 2 nd Withuhn Page 4 of 5

5 ATTACHMENT 1 NBIC Subgroup & Engineering Standards Committee Members = Member (MN) = Member non-voting 30 April 2010 Steven M. Butler greenchili@tds.net PO Box 1251 Alamosa, CO cell David Conrad, Chief Mechanical Officer (vice chair ESC) jdconrad@snet.net Valley Railroad Co. PO Box 452 (860) cell Essex, CT (860) FAX (860) Robert Franzen ssoa2001@aol.com Steam Services of America 55 John Allman Lane Sylva, NC cell fax Work David Griner (vice chair NB, treasurer ESC) dgriner@arizonamechanicalengineering.com 8450 Wethersfield Peoria, AZ (307) (cell) Steve Jackson, Chief Mechanical Officer D&SNG sjackson@durangotrain.com 479 Main Avenue Durango, CO (c) (970) (h) (970) (w) (970) (w) FAX (970) Matthew A. Janssen mjanssen@vaporlocomotive.com PO Box 1627 Sandpoint, ID (208) cell Stephen Lee, Manager, Train Operating Practices & Mgr.-Steam Locomotive Operations Union Pacific Railroad 1800 Westland Road SALee@up.com Cheyenne, WY (307) FAX (307) cell (307) Doyle McCormack, Engineer doyle396@comcast.net 616 Roosevelt Street Oregon City, OR (503) (h) Cell (503) (MN) (MN) Linn Moedinger, VPCMO ( ESC, NB subgroup Secretary), Strasburg Rail Road PO Box 96 (717) cell linnwm@supernet.com Strasburg, PA (717) (h) (717) (w) FAX (717) G. Mark Ray, Chief Civil/Mechanical Engineering Tennessee Valley Authority 1101 Market St. (423) )w) (423) FAX gmray@tva.gov Chattanooga, TN George L. Scerbo, FRA, Railroad Safety Specialist, MP&E West Building, Mail Stop New Jersey Ave., SE george.scerbo@ DOT.GOV Washington, DC (202) (w) (202) cell (FAX) (202) Robert Schueler National Board of Boiler Inspectors schuelerrl@asme.org 1055 Crupper Avenue rschueler@nationalboard.org Columbus, OH (614) (w) (FAX) (614) (Direct FAX) (815) Richard Stone, ALSTOM 692 Grange Road richard.b.stone@power.alstom.com Teaneck, NJ (201) (201) cell (FAX) (201) Chair Bill Withuhn, (ESC, NB Chair) Smithsonian Institution wwithuhn@aol.com 6311 Barr=s Lane (301) cell Lanham, MD (301) (h) (202) (w) FAX (202) Robert Yuill, Steam Locomotive Consultant, Historic Machinery Services PO Box 856 histmachry@windstream.net Springville, AL (256) FAX is the same # (205) CELL Robert Reetz, Chief Boiler Inspector breetz@nd.gov North Dakota Insurance Dept., Boiler Inspection Dept. Phone S. 12 th Street FAX Bismarck, ND Page 5 of 5