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sazogadoebriv azrs udidesi mnisvneloba aqvs Tanamedrove politikasi _ ra Sexeduleba aqvt, rogor afaseben sxvadasxva profesiis adamianebi ama Tu im politikoss, mimdinare politikur procebsa Tu movlenebs. Jurnali `saqartvelos parlamenti~ iwyebs axal rubrikas, romelsac vxsnit yvela droisatvis aqtualuri TemiT _ `qali da politikaa.~ Tema sagangebod SevarCieT, radgan Cvens mzime da rtul drosi qali politikasi ara genderuli balansis simboloa, aramed aucilebloba _ TiTqmis utyuari intuicit, sirbiles Sezavebuli simtkicita da principulobit. vinaidan saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare qalia, bunebrivia, arcevani masze SevaCereT. Cvens respodentebs _ fsiqologs, politologs, sociologsa da xelovans _ konkretuli pirovnebis, movlenebis, qmedebebis Sefaseba vtxovet. vfiqrobt, rubrika mkitxvelisatvis saintereso iqneba da am galereasi cnobili politikosebi mravalmxriv da gansxvavebulad warmocndebian.

q a l i d a p qali o lda i tpolitika i k a 2007 politika _ SesaZleblobebis xelovneba, pirovnuli arcevani, Tu `binzuri saqme~... aleqsandre rondeli: me vfiqrob, politika aris pirovnuli arcevani, zogistvis cxovrebis wesi. ra Tqma unda, es aris SesaZleblobebis xelovneba da mgoni, es Zalian kargad axsovs TviTon mas: yoveltvis gawonasworebuli da ara eqstremisti. ramaz sayvarelize: politika SesaZleblobebis xelovnebacaa, pirovnuli arcevanic, binzuri saqmec da kidev bevri ram... ertsac davamateb: politika brzolis xelovnebacaa. politikosi mebrzolic unda iyos da msenebelic. samwuxarod, am ori Tvisebis ert pirovnebasi arseboba Znelia. bevri gvinaxavs kargi mebrzoli, magram msenebloba ar SeZlebia da piriqit. radgan politika brzolis elementebs moicavs, `binzuri saqme~ TiTqos aucileblobaa _ brzola, rogorc wesi, wesebis garese! meore mxriv mravali minaxavs politikisaken wasuli, magram iqidan aravin brundeba. politikosobam, msaxiobobisa ar iyos, mizidva icis _ tasi da yuradrebis centrsi yofna orivesatvis xiblia. Temur iakobasvili: politikosoba arcevani ki ara niwia, rogorc xelovnebis nebismieri dargi, Tu mxatvrobis niwi ar gaqvs, SeiZleba jrabno, magram mxatvari ver gaxdebi, Tu xma ar gaqvs, SeiZleba iknavlo, magram ver imrereb. politikosobac gansakutrebuli, gamorceuli niwia, es misi gamozaxilia, vidre Segnebuli arcevani. ra Tvisebebic politikoss moetxoveba, arc ert universitetsi ar iswavleba, niwi gaqvs an ar gaqvs. yvelaferi rac Semdeg xdeba: armavloba-dacema, warmateba-warumatebloba _ SesaZleblobebis xelovnebaa. TavisTavad politika binzuri saqme ar aris, mas araketilsindisieri politikosebi abin Zureben. demokratiis cnobili Teoretikosi _ andria detokvili _ Tavis fundamentur nasromsi `demokratia amerikasi~ wers: `politikosebi morals yoveltvis amjobineben gamosadegs. gamosadegi ufro urcevniat, vidre morali. Tu mat mivusvebt, isini moralsac gamoiyeneben _ moralsac gamosadegad gaxdian.~ giorgi usikisvili: Cemi azit, pirovnuli arcevanicaa da SesaZleblobebis xelovnebac. ra aris imasi cudi, adamianma mosinjos, `sad gadis misi SesaZleblobis zrvari~. arafrit ar vetanxmebi im azrs, rom politika binzuri saqmea. Tu kacs zneoba da patiosnebis unari dakarguli aqvs, SeiZleba nebismieri saqme binzuri da Sesazari gaxados, mat Soris, politikac. vi Racam, Wkvianma qalma Tu kacma, xom unda aketos es aucilebeli saqme. Tanac pirovnebis roli politikasa da istoriasi dresac ganuzomlad didia. rogor icxovrebs xalxi, rogori iqneba qveynis momavali es absoluturad politikosebzea damokidebli. s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i 111

2007 qali q ada lpolitika i d a p o l i t i k a qali da politika... aleqsandre rondeli: qalebi politikasi iyvnen, arian da momavalsi kidev ufro metni iqnebian. is ki ara, islamur samyarosi Zalian bevri qali politikosia da amasi araferia gasakviri da gasaocari. qartveli mandilosani rom politikosia, arc es mikvirs. CvenSi mandilosnebi Cvenze ufro Zlierebi arian. zogi ambobs, cudiao, me mgoni, qveynisatvis uke Tesia. momavalsi qalebi ufro did rols Seasruleben qartul politikasi da ketilismyofel gavlenas moaxdenen. iyos politikosi qali _ qali xom saertod politikosia Tavisi bunebit. ramaz sayvarelize: qali da politika sakmaod kargad ergebian ertmanets. mraval qveyanasi isini liderebi da warmmartvelebi xdebian. Tanac Zalian uxdeba qali politikas. qalebi isedac mebrzolebi d kargi diplomatebi arian _ diplomatiis bunebrivi niwi aqvt. es ki sasualebas azlevt moergon dasavluri tipis politikas, Tumca axla qal liderebs armosavletsic vxedavt. Temur iakobasvili: politika fizikur SromasTan, urosa da nicabtan ar aris dakavsirebuli, amitom aq aris qalis adgili. Tanac, Tu davakvirdebit, politika patara politikebis krebulia. iq ki qals yoveltvis uxdeba yofna: ojaxi, Svilebis arzrda, meurle, dedamtili... am urtiertobebis sworad warmartva namdvili politikaa. qartveli qalebi politikasi yoveltvis iyvnen CarTulni _ intrigebis doneze mainc (Tumca intrigebs kacebic kargad xlartavdnen). meoce saukunesi qalebma parlamentsa da armasrulebel xelisuflebasi gadainacvles. RmerTma dagvifaros, politika marto kacebis saqme iyos. mat naklebad aqvt ganvitarebuli intuicia, sifrtxile, rarac etapze panika, rarac etapze isteria, gaatmagebuli Sinagani xma. amitom, vfiqrob, rom politika, udavod, qalis saqmea. giorgi usikisvili: politikis ert-erti Semadgeneli nawilia diplomatia. vfiqrob, qalis CarTva am processi mnisvnelovania _ `diplomatiuria~, mit umetes, Tu qals bunebrivad qalistvis damaxasiatebeli Tvisebebi aqvs da ar aris mamakacuri (aseti qalebic arseboben). politikasi qalis roli ganuzomelia _ misi qaluri bunebidan da TviT politikis Tvisebebidan gamomdinare. mit umetes, qartvelebs qalis kultis, dedis pativiscemis, qalis garmertebis uzvelesi tradiciebi gvaqvs. bolos da bolos Tamar mefis qveyana vart. 112 s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i

q a l i d a p qali o lda i tpolitika i k a 2007 eqvsi saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare qalia... aleqsandre rondeli: eqvsi saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare qalia. Znelia parlamentis Tavmjdomareoba. Tanac gardamaval periodsi, rodesac batonobs da dominirebs destruqcia, transformirebis xanasia qveyana. Cven infantiluri, gansakutrebuli xalxi vart (yovelgvari xumrobis garese) da martlac gansakutrebuli vitarebaa saqartvelosi: ori saukunis Semdeg saqartvelo kvlav xdeba saxelmwifo _ ar iyo, axali saxelmwifo iqmneba da Cven es gvaviwydeba _ fermentaciis processi vart. mawrobis periodi gvaqvs, jer kidev ver davdurdit da ver davdeqit `kaxuri,~ unda gavxdet, vinaidan, Cemi azrit, is yvelas sjobia. aset procesebsa da vitarebasi parlamentis Tavmjdomare rom qalia, TavisTavad aris Zalian didi politikuri mirweva. ramaz sayvarelize: saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare rom qalia, swored amitom miviret zomierebisa da principulobis ertgvari sintezi, gansakutrebit rusebtan diskusiisas unikaluri xelweris patronia, kacebi amgvar situaciasi ilanzrebian, burjanaze ki axerxebs, rom Tavisi satqmeli ise Tqvas, aravin Seuracxyos, Tumca qartvel politikosebtan xsirad gamodis mdgomareobidan, rac rusebtan arasodes emarteba. etyoba, saxlsi ufro `Tavisuflad~ grznobs Tavs. Temur iakobasvili: latinuri amerikis zogiert saxelmwifosi kanoni sazrvravs, romeli Tanamdeboba unda ekavos qals, deputatta 25% qali unda iyos. es xelovnuroba gaumar Tlebelia. Tu qali kargi politikosia, yovelgvari kanonmdeblobis garese SeZlebs Tavisi adgilis damkvidrebas politikasi. saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare rom qalia, es ara genderuli balansis gamoxatuleba, aramed misi pirovnuli Tvisebebisa da politikos nino burjanazis `brali~ da damsaxurebaa. CemTvis qalbatoni nino politikosis klasikuri magalitia _ politikosis Tandayolili TvisebebiT, romelic arsad iswavleba. is niwieri politikosia da amitom aris saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare. Tanac ukve meorejer prezidentobis movaleobis Semsrulebelia. kritikul situaciasi prezidentoba gacilebit Znelia, ndobis marali xarisxia sawiro. nino burjanaze, am eqvsi wlis manzilze, gulaxdilebi Tu viqnebit, eqvsjer damarxes da eqvsjerve amoires miwidan. amasia misi, rogorc politikosis, sizliere (Tumca politikosisatvis sikvdili ganyenebuli cnebaa. amerikelebis cnobili gamotqmaa: kaci politikosi masin kvdeba, roca mkvdar qaltan ipovian an cocxal kactano). giorgi usikisvili: me piradad didi simpatia maqvs qalbatoni ninos mimart. yvelas gvaxsovs politikur kibeze misi armasvla _ ra mzime vitarebasi Caudga is satavesi Cveni qveynis umarles sakanonmdeblo organos. sidinje, TavSekaveba, gawonasworebuloba _ zogadad politikosisatvis, gansakutrebit politikosi qalisatvis, aucilebeli da sasuri Tviseba. eqvsi saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare _ didi ufleba da didi movaleoba, didi pativi da didi pasuxismgebloba, didi asparezi da didi tvirti... Zalian rtul dros da vitarebasi mouwia am Tanamdebobaze musaoba. amas plus, man orjer umzimes situaciasi Seasrula saqartvelos prezidentis movaleoba. pirvelad SesaniSnavad gaartva Tavi, meoredac aseve iqneba. s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i 113

2007 qali q ada lpolitika i d a p o l i t i k a nino burjanaze msoflio politikos qalta Soris... aleqsandre rondeli: Zalian Znelia Seadaro _ yvelas Tavisi adgili da roli aqvs. nino burjanaze qartul politikasi unda SevafasoT. msgavsi qveynebic xom aris, Tundac latvia, magram mainc ara hgavs qalbaton vaira vite-freibergas, is prezidenti iyo, Tanac iq sxva vitarebaa, _ warmatebuli qveyanaa, CvenTan ufro rtuli konteqstia. saqartvelosi ufro Znelia politikosoba, gind qali iyo, gind _ kaci. ramaz sayvarelize: msoflio politikos qalta Soris burjanaze msgavs stils inarcunebs. roca am Temaze vsaubrobt, margaret tetceri gvaxsendeba, Tanac ninosac uyvars tetceri, stilit hgavs kidec mas. misi sxva Tvisebebi ramdenad gaacnia, verafers getyvit, sanam pirveli piris savarzelsi ar Cajdeba. saertod asea: vidre politikosi ar daikavebs raime adgils, winaswar Zneli satqmelia, is im adgilas rogori iqneba. Temur iakobasvili: pirveli asociacia, romelic unda gagicndes, margaret tetceria, magram CemSi es asociacia naklebadaa. nino burjanaze gacilebit moqnili politikosia, vidre tetceri. saqartvelos Tamamad SeuZlia iamayos, rom aseti tipis parlamentis Tavmjdomare hyavs. radgan Zalian xsirad gamigia sazrvargaret _ evropasic da amerikasic _ ninoze mowiwebit laparakoben da saxe unatdebat xolme. msoflios TvalSi, nino burjanaze aris gamorceuli politikosi, dadebiti movlena qartul da regionul politikasi `Она своя среди равных.~ giorgi usikisvili: simartle gitxrat, Zalian kargad ar vicnob msoflio politikosebs, politikit arc arasdros davinteresebulvar, magram, roca politikosi qalia _ parlamentis Tavmjdomare an saxelmwifos metauri _ SeuZlebelia, ar icnobde, ar dainteresde da masze cota ram mainc ar icode: margaret tetceri, kondoliza raisi, madlen olbraiti, angela merkeli, vaira vike-freiberga... me nino burjanazes Sevadarebdi margaret tetcers _ Cacmis akademiuri stilit, TavdaWeriT, daxvewili manerebit. Tumca Zalian Sorsa var im azrisagan, rom igi vinmes bazavs, Tundac inglisis yofil premier-ministrs. 114 s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i

q a l i d a p qali o lda i tpolitika i k a 2007 politikos nino burjanazis gamorceuli Tviseba... aleqsandre rondeli: gamorceuli Tvisebaa, rodesac, rtul vitarebasi gawonasworebulia da amave dros simtkices icens. gawonasworebuloba _ simtkice Zalian kargi Tvisebaa. es aris is, rac Zalian moswont massi. ramaz sayvarelize: advilad poulobs gadakvetis, datmobis wertils. kompromisis xelovneba politikis ert-ert ganmartebad moiazreba. nino am xelovnebas flobs. davamatebdi, gabedulicaa, orond iseti _ frtxili gabeduli. `imedis~ ardgenisas, faqtobrivad, man airo Tavis Tavze gadawyvetilebis simzime da, Cemi azrit, es sakmaod gabeduli nabiji iyo. Temur iakobasvili: nino burjanaze yoveltvis ezebs konsensuss da uarresad koreqtulia. saqartvelosi aseti koreqtuli politikosi, gulaxdilad rom vtqva, ar meguleba. igi am Tvisebas inarcunebs politikur mowinaarmdegeebtan, im SemTxvevaSic ki, roca mis mimart usamartlo braldebebi gaismis. nino burjanaze aqtiuri saxe ar aris. is, ufro `Знаковая фигура,~ vidre yoveldriuri, musa politikosi. giorgi usikisvili: yvela kritikul momentsi TavSekavebuloba da aurelvebloba. albat, amis iqit didi Sinagani Relva da gancda imaleba, magram amas arasodes gagrznobinebs. yvelaze dazabul situaciasi is aris msvidi qalbatoni, msvidi mandilosani. Cemi azrit, es Zalian kargad musaobs mis imijsa da xalxis ganwyobaze. 115

2007 qali q ada lpolitika i d a p o l i t i k a nino burjanaze oratori _ dadebiti da uaryofiti maxasiateblebi... aleqsandre rondeli: qalbatoni ninos kariera mainc universitetidan daiwyo (is profesoric aris). universitetsi roca aswavli, mcirea gamonaklisi, vinc oratorobis niws moklebulia da cudad metyvelebs. universiteti unikaluri gamocdilebaa. warmatebul qveynebsi Zalian xsirad politikosebi universitetidan modian da, roca amtavreben politikur karieras, isev mas ubrundebian. universiteti is adgilia, sadac adamianis niwi, codna oratoruli xelovneba mudmiv srulyofas ganicdis amitom, me vfiqrob, rom Zalian kargi, akademiuri oratoria da amasi universitetis didi damsaxurebaa. ramaz sayvarelize: oratoroba cota sxva cnebaa. nino burjanazeze oratori naklebad itqmis, ufro kargi diskusantia. rac diskusiasi aqvs _ sakutari pozicia _ mis grzel sityvasi isviatad Cans. SeiZleba, zomiereba ubizgebs, piradi pozicia ar gamokvetos. SezRudvis, TviTcenzuris moments vgrznob burjanazis gamosvlebsi. iqneb es misi stilia an, arsebul pirobebsi, ara aqvs yvelafris Tqmis survili _ ufro naklebs ambobs, vidre unda, rom Tqvas. Temur iakobasvili: albat, qartvel politikosta Soris nino burjanaze ert-erti seriozuli oratoria. esec niwia. sisusted Tu CaiTvleba, Zalian akademiuria. saakasvilisagan gansxvavebit, romelic sazrvargaret sxvanairad laparkobs da Sin _ sxvanairad, nino burjanaze yvelas ertnairad elaparakeba. giorgi usikisvili: roca adamiansi dadebiti gacilebit Warbobs uaryofits, nakls, is TvalSi arar gvxvdeba da TiTqmis verc amcnev. qalbaton ninosi Cem mier SemCneuli da gacnobierebuli nakli ver armovacine (Tumca kargad vici, unaklo mxolod RmerTia). Tu politikosi mogwons, misi imedi gaqvs. Casafrebulis poziciidan ar uyureb, uaryofiti maxasiatebeli ukana planze gadadis. alroiani, logikuri da damajerebeli tonis mqone oratoria. ragind ucnauric unda iyos, Zalian momwons nino burjanaze _ oratori, diskusiis xelovnebis Cinebuli mcodne, saertasoriso Sexvedrebze, brifingebsa da konferenciebze. damamaxsovrda misi gamosvla peterburgsa da lisabonsi. vizualurad rac Cans, imas ariqvam da mjera, amitom uaryofit maxasiatebelze ver SevCerdebi. 116 s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i

q a l i d a p qali o lda i tpolitika i k a 2007 nino burjanaze da qveynisatvis krizisuli, mzime momentebi... aleqsandre rondeli: qalbaton ninos daebeda, rom rtul momentebsi wina planze gamocndeba xolme da, sxvata Soris, yoveltvis iwvevs dadebit reaqcias, xalxs moswons, roca mandilosani mtkice da gawonasworebulia. litonebze ityvian kargi nazaviao. swored kargi nazavia nino. kritikul momentsi Cans politikosis xelovneba da done. ramaz sayvarelize: krizisuli da mzime ninostan mimartebasi Zneli satqmelia, radgan isviatad gamodis mdgomareobidan, amitom misgan krizisuli situacia ar ariqmeba. qveynisatvis mzime mdgomareobisas ki burjanaze axerxebs, iyos Sekruli, mobilizebuli. yoveltvis aqvs es stili _ yvelas usmens, axerxebs, yvelas interesis gadakvetis wertili armoacinos da Semdeg imoqmedos. saubrisas aravis Trgunavs Tavisi avtoritetit Tu pirovnuli ZaliT. ar aswrebs movlenebs da arasodes cdilobs, situacia sxvas gadaabar-gadaabralos. mistvis molaparakebis stilia ufro damaxasiatebeli, demokratiuli martvis stils rom ezaxian, da ara avtoritaruli. Temur iakobasvili: krizisul momentebs kargad artmevs Tavs, radgan amortizatoris rols kisrulobs. dartymis dros es sawiro Tvisebaa. kaci rom iyos, amas ver SeZlebda. dabalansebuli pirovneba da politikosia _ Tavisi nisa ukavia. krizisebis dros ar aris marginaluri. SevardnaZis winaarmdeg gamosvlisasac ki ar hqonda es forma. am mxriv nino burjanaze komfortuli politikosia. giorgi usikisvili: albat, noembris dreebi da gansakutrebit 7 noemberi. martalia, samwuxarod, noembris movlenebi xelisuflebam Tavidan ver aicila, magram qalbatoni ninos gamosvla 7 noembers, parlamentis foiesi xalxi rom Sevida, misi Sexvedra da winadadebebi opoziciastan, iyo situaciis seriozuli ganmuxtva _ ganeitraleba. qalbatoni nino im momentsi iyo zedmiwevnit Tavazianic da gabedulic. 117

2007 qali q ada lpolitika i d a p o l i t i k a 2003 wlis noemberi _ nino burjanaze opozicioneri... aleqsandre rondeli: 2003 wlis noemberi _ 2007 wlis noemberi. rogori iyo qalbatoni nino 2003 wels opozicioneri? _ Tanmimdevruli, ar axasiatebda eqstremizmi, romelic opoziciasi yofnisas araa gamoricxuli, TanmimdevrulobiT da principulobit miarwia Tavisas. pozitiur rols asrulebda masinac da axlac. me vfiqrob, isetivea, rogoric iyo. masin, orond ufro darvinebuli, ufro gamocdili, SeiZleba, kidev ufro gawonasworebuli. es ar aklda arc `vardebis revoluciis~ dros, magram masin iyo opozicioneri da ufro emociuri, dres ufro dinji da TavSekavebulia, imitom, rom xelisufalia. ramaz sayvarelize: mainc ver vayalibeb, ver vixseneb rodidan daiwyo misi opozicioneroba. es albat, rogorc Sedegi, zurab Jvanias opozicionerobas mohyva, Tanac ar iyo yvelaze mwvave figura opoziciurad ganwyobil jgufsi. 2003 wels, roca nino burjanazis reitingma gauswro zurab Jvanias reitings, Jvania ufro damokidebuli armocnda ninoze, mas es ar gamouyenebia da poziciebi Tanabrad gadanawilda. SevardnaZesTan opozicionerobasic nino ar iyo wamyvani _ ufro etanxmeboda sxvebs. erti sityvit, ninos ar Cautexia xidebi bolomde _ radikaluri opozicia arasodes yofila. Sesabamisad, am radikalizmsi dabalansebis unaris gamo armocnda swored saakasvilis gverdit. radgan mravalferovani speqtri swirdeboda Tavis garsemo da am mravalferovnebasi ninos hqonda Tavisi funqcia da ndobis faqtori. amitom, rogorc axla, 2003 welsac mas advilad andes da dautmes prezidentis movaleobis Sesruleba (martalia, konstituciuradac ekutvnis, magram sxvanairadac SeiZleboda momxdariyo), radgan ician, rom burjanazem Tu sityva misca, ar gadadis. ver getyvit, es ramdenad plusia politikasi, magram zneobrivia. ninos stili Zalian gansxvavdeba im agresiuli politikuri jgufisagan, romlis gverdit is dres dgas. am etapzec is araagresiuli prezidentia; es SeiZleba am jgufisatvis miurebeli iyos, magram... Temur iakobasvili: nino burjanaze yoveltvis uketesia gundsi _ is lideria, gacilebit efeqturad gamoiyureba gundtan ertad, sustdeba mis garet. Sesabamisad, Jvanias gundsi Zalian efeqturad gamoiyureboda. giorgi usikisvili: nino burjanazis wvlili didia `vardebis revoluciasi _ Tavisi Tvisebebi da SesaZleblobebi zedmiwevnit gamoiyena. revolucias Zalian mouxda ninoseuli simsvide, ganurisxveloba, man Semoitana revoluciis mrisxane muxtsi harmonia da Taviseburi konsonansi. man sxva elferi SesZina `vardebis revolucias~ da, saertod, qartul politikas. Tu saqartvelosi genderuli balansi darrveuli araa, amasi `brali~ saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomares miuzrvis. 118 s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i

q a l i d a p qali o lda i tpolitika i k a 2007 2007 wlis noemberi _ nino burjanaze saqartvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomare... aleqsandre rondeli: 7 noembers rac moxda, es iyo kritikuli vitarebis, gamoucdelobis Sedegi, ar elodnen amas. qalbatoni nino iyo gawonasworebuli, dambalansebeli, Tumca mtkice. daicva parlamentis Rirseba da principebs ar uralata. SeeZlo Tu ara parlamentis Tavmjdomares aecilebina 7 noemberi? _ Zneli satqmelia. Cven ar vicit, ra xdeboda kuluarebsi. vfiqrob, gadawyvetilebebi ar iyo koleqtiuri, uewvelia, aman ganapiroba, kritikuli vitareba rom droze ar ganimuxta, es Cveni xelisuflebis marcxia. vinc vitardeba, Secdomebic mas mosdis. axal demokratiasi uaresebic xdeba. CemTvis is iyo moulodneli, rom aseti gasmageba iyo orive mxridan. megona, ganvikurnet amisgan, armocnda _ ara. ramaz sayvarelize: nino burjanazes gundi ar gamousvebda, Torem ar mgonia, rom is xalx Tan ar Camovidoda da xalxic miirebda mas. ninos xalxtan urtiertobis ar esinia. jgufma ar gamousva swored imitom, rom stili aqvt sxvadasxva. mat bolo wutamde arafris datmoba ar surdat _ datmoba sisuste hgoniat. amitom ninos arc SevardnaZis gundis wevrad arviqvam (mamalazeebisa da misi msgavsebis gverdit) da arc am agresiuli axalgazrdebis jguf Tan vaigiveb. aqedan gamomdinareobs bolo kitxvac: garkveulwilad politikasi martoobistvisaa ganwiruli, radgan Tavis gundsac ver qmnis da, roca Seqmna, ufro inteligenciisagan Temur iakobasvili: nino burjanaze ertaderti politikosi iyo, romelic opoziciastan molaparakebebs awarmoebda, gamodioda sityvit da xalxs, met-naklebad, sjeroda... rogorc Cans sxvas ar hqonda amis `kredit bileti.~is iyo ertaderti demokratiuli meqanizmi, romelic efeqturi gamodga da msvidoba damyarda. giorgi usikisvili: 2007 wlis noembersi yvelani velodit rarac sirtuleebs, magram am donis _ ara. yvelaferi elvis siswrafit ganvitarda. 2003 wlis 23 noemberi _ didi sixaruli da armafrena. s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i 119

2007 qali q ada lpolitika i d a p o l i t i k a nino burjanazis momavali politikasi... aleqsandre rondeli: momavali Tavad unda gansajos. ninos Zalian didi gamocdileba aqvs, amdeni xani politikasi, parlamentsia. amitom misi gadasawyvetia, ras gaaketebs _ darceba Tu wava. me vfiqrob, yvela Tviseba aqvs imisatvis, rom gaagrzelos politikuri morvaweoba. romc wavides, misi gaketebuli saqme qartul politikasi darceba da dadebitad Sefasdeba. TviTon precedenti imisa, rom am urtules drosi axalgazrda qalbatonma moaxerxa amdeni _ urtules periodsi iyo parlamentis Tavmjdomare. ramaz sayvarelize: nino burjanazis momavali politikasi? _ gaacnia vin iqneba politika Si. Tuki drevandeli xelisufleba darca, meewveba, rom ninos apation garkveuli `sirbileebi.~ Tu sxva xelisufleba movida da Seicvala zogadi klimati _ agresiulobis xarisxi _ ninos aqvs perspeqtiva. Temur iakobasvili: radgan aseti TvisebebiT gamorceuli politikosis sawiroeba arsebobs, igi aucileblad darceba qartul politikasi. magram mas mouwevs arcevanis gaketeba... ewvi mepareba, rom mixeil saakasvilis mxares darces. drevandeli gadmosaxedidan es erti gundia, magram arcevnebis Sedegebis miuxedavad, daslas daiwyebs: burjanaze am gundidan wava. giorgi usikisvili: vfiqrob, man ukve Zalian didi roli Seasrula qartul politikasi, datova Tavisi kvali da saxeli. romc ar iyos qalbatoni nino politikasi, is mainc darceba Cveni qveynis istoriasi ert-ert pirvel politikosad, am donisa da rangis qali politikosi jerjerobit ara gvyavs. 120 s a q a r T v e l o s p a r l a m e n t i