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Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 1 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Nos. 08-15712 and 08-15570 In The United States Court of Appeals Ninth Circuit In re: MICHAEL KEITH SCHUGG, d/b/a Schuburg Holsteins; DEBRA SCHUGG, Debtors G. GRANT LYON, Appellee/Cross-Appellant v. GILA RIVER INDIAN COMMUNITY, Appellant/Cross-Appellee APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA Case No. CV 05-2045-PHX-JAT APPELLEE/CROSS-APPELLANT G. GRANT LYON S REPLY BRIEF ON CROSS-APPEAL Paul F. Eckstein Richard M. Lorenzen Joel W. Nomkin PERKINS COIE BROWN & BAIN P.A. 2901 North Central Avenue Post Office Box 400 Phoenix, Arizona 85001-0400 (602) 351-8000 Attorneys for G. Grant Lyon, Appellee/Cross-Appellant

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 2 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 TABLE OF CONTENTS Page Table of Authorities... ii Summary of Argument...1 Argument...4 I. THE COURT HAS JURISDICTION TO DECIDE THE R.S. 2477 ISSUE...4 II. SMITH-ENKE AND MURPHY ROADS ARE PUBLIC ROADS UNDER R.S. 2477...8 A. Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are Public Roads Under Arizona Law...9 B. Executive Order Indian Reservations are Not Exempt from R.S. 2477...10 C. Any Historical Shifting of Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads is Irrelevant...14 Relief Requested...17 Certificate of Service...18 Certificate of Compliance...19 -i-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 3 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 TABLE OF AUTHORITIES Cases Pages Adams v. United States, 3 F.3d 1254 (9th Cir. 1993)... 14, 15, 17 Alleman v. United States, 372 F. Supp. 2d 1212 (D. Ore 2005)...7 Anderson v. Healy, 629 N.E.2d 312 (Mass. App. Ct. 1994)...8 Best v. Humboldt Placer Mining Co., 371 U.S. 334 (1963)... 13 Cent. Pac. Ry. Co. v. Alameda County, 284 U.S. 463 (1932)... 3, 15, 16 Columbia Basin Land Protection Ass n v. Schlesinger, 643 F.2d 585 (9th Cir. 1981)... 11, 12 Cosmos Exploration Co. v. Gray Eagle Oil Co., 112 F. 4 (9th Cir. 1901)... 13 Dixon v. Edwards, 290 F.3d 699 (4th Cir. 2002)...7 Elephant Butte Irrigation Dist. of N.M. v. United States Dep t of Interior, 269 F.3d 1158 (10th Cir. 2001)... 11 Friends of Panamint Valley v. Kempthorne, 499 F. Supp. 2d 1165 (E.D. Cal. 2007)...7 Granfinanceria, S.A. v. Nordberg, 492 U.S. 33 (1989)...4 Hall v. E. Air Lines, Inc., 511 F.2d 663 (5th Cir. 1975)...8 Karuk Tribe of Cal. v. Ammon, 209 F.3d 1366 (Fed. Cir. 2000)... 12, 13 -ii-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 4 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Kinscherff v. United States, 586 F.2d 159 (10th Cir. 1978)...7 Kleppe v. New Mexico, 426 U.S. 529 (1976)... 11 Langenkamp v. Culp, 498 U.S. 42 (1990)... 4, 5 Long v. Area Manager, Bureau of Reclamation, 236 F.3d 910 (8th Cir. 2001)...7 Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 504 U.S. 555 (1992)...7 McMoran v. State of Wash., 345 P.2d 598 (Wash. 1957)...6 N. Alaska Envtl. Ctr. v. Hodel, 803 F.2d 466 (9th Cir. 1986)...6 Puyallup Indian Tribe v. Port of Tacoma, 717 F.2d 1251 (9th Cir. 1983)...5 Rose v. State, 123 P.2d 505 (Cal. 1942)...6 Sioux Tribe of Indians v. United States, 316 U.S. 317 (1942)... 12, 13 State of Arizona v. Thelberg, 87 Ariz. 318, 350 P.2d 988, 991 (1960)...6 United States v. Cal., 332 U.S. 19 (1947)... 13 United States v. Midwest Oil Co., 236 U.S. 459 (1915)... 12 Wilkensen v. Dep t of Interior, 634 F. Supp. 1265 (D. Colo. 1985)... 15 -iii-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 5 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Statutes 16 U.S.C. 471... 14 25 U.S.C. 398d... 11, 13 28 U.S.C. 2409a...2 43 U.S.C. 1769(a)... 14 43 U.S.C. 932...1 Miscellaneous C.J.S. Trespass 49...8 -iv-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 6 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Summary of Argument The sole issue on Appellee/Cross-Appellants G. Grant Lyon s (the Trustee ) cross-appeal is whether the district court erred in holding that Smith- Enke and Murphy Roads are not public roads under Revised Statute 2477 ( R.S. 2477 ), which provided rights-of-way for the construction of highways over public lands not reserved for public uses. 43 U.S.C. 932 (1976) (repealed by the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976, Pub. L. No. 94-579, 706(A), 90 Stat. 2743, 2793). The district court found that roads providing access to Section 16 have existed [a]t all relevant times. [ER10 at 75] It also found that Pinal County declared roads along the section lines of Section 16 and adjoining sections in 1922, [ER10 at 76], and accordingly, [p]ost-1922 maps and aerials show the alignment of Smith-Enke Road and Murphy Road on section lines, [ER10 at 77] In declaring these roads, Pinal County acted in accordance with Arizona s statutory scheme, thereby defeating GRIC s argument that there was no conformance with Arizona law. These facts alone establish that Pinal County accepted Congress s R.S. 2477 grant and created public rights-of-way along Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads. As set forth in the Trustee s Opening Brief ( Trustee s Opening Br. ) (at 51-55), the district simply misapplied the law in holding to the contrary. -1-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 7 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 In response, Appellant/Cross-Appellee Gila River Indian Community ( GRIC ) contends (at 39-41) that the Court has no jurisdiction to decide the R.S. 2477 issue because (i) the Trustee has not satisfied the requirements to bring an action under the Quiet Title Act ( QTA ), 28 U.S.C. 2409a, and; (ii) R.S. 2477 does not create individual property rights in the public road that would give the Trustee standing to bring a private right of action. GRIC s arguments might have merit if the Trustee had filed suit against the United States to establish title in Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads. But that is not what he has done. As the district court recognized, GRIC s bankruptcy filings contesting the legal access to Section 16 triggered this litigation, and forced the Trustee to defend those access rights so that he could remove the cloud that GRIC placed on Section 16 and avoid paying trespass damages to GRIC. [See ER18-19, 49] The Trustee therefore appropriately argued that Section 16 s owners do enjoy legal access to the property, and could not have trespassed over Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads, since those roads are open to the public under R.S. 2477. GRIC also raises several legal arguments as to why it believes Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are not R.S. 2477 roads. But GRIC s arguments on the merits fare no better than its jurisdictional argument: GRIC argues (at 45-47) that R.S. 2477 roads must comply with state laws concerning the creation of public highways. Even if true, this -2-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 8 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 contention ignores that Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads were declared public roads under Arizona law. Applying the same rationale that the district court used in rejecting the Trustee s R.S. 2477 argument, GRIC contends (at 48-51) that R.S. 2477 did not apply to the lands to the south, east, and west of Section 16 after the President issued an executive order in 1913 adding these lands to the GRIC Reservation. GRIC is wrong. Congress can sell or dispose of lands within executive order Indian reservations whenever it wants, and such alienability defines public lands. GRIC argues (at 44-45) that R.S. 2477 roads cannot exist because the Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads that exist today are not in the same location as the roads that existed in the early 1900 s. But the evidence shows that Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads remained in the same place after they were declared public roads by Pinal County. Moreover, GRIC s assertion fails under controlling precedent, as the Supreme Court has held that roads may shift in location yet still fall within R.S. 2477 s protections. Cent. Pac. Ry. Co. v. Alameda County, 284 U.S. 463, 467 (1932). This Court should therefore reverse the district court s holding that Smith- Enke and Murphy Roads are not R.S. 2477 roads. -3-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 9 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Argument I. THE COURT HAS JURISDICTION TO DECIDE THE R.S. 2477 ISSUE. GRIC argues (at 39-41) that the district court lacked jurisdiction to determine whether Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are public roads pursuant to R.S. 2477 because, according to GRIC, (i) the Trustee s R.S. 2477 claim is an effort to quiet title in those portions of the lands without the United States as a party; and (ii) the Trustee lacks standing to assert the public s collective right to use a road under R.S. 2477. Neither contention has merit. As an initial matter, this is not a quiet title action. The Trustee has never sought a declaration against the United States that Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are public roads, nor has he requested relief under the QTA his Complaint for Declaratory Relief did not even cite the QTA. Instead, the Trustee has sought to remove the cloud that GRIC placed on Section 16 by obtaining a declaration against GRIC that the Trustee has legal access to Section 16. That cloud exists because GRIC filed a proof of claim in the bankruptcy court contesting the Trustee s title and access rights to Section 16. [ER32-33, 338-40, 349-50]. The Supreme Court has held that by filing a claim against a bankruptcy estate the creditor triggers the process of allowance and disallowance of claims. Langenkamp v. Culp, 498 U.S. 42, 44 (1990) (citing Granfinanceria, S.A. v. Nordberg, 492 U.S. 33, 59 n.14 1989) (emphasis added). GRIC s argument -4-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 10 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 (at 14) that [t]he Trustee... is the initiating plaintiff in this litigation therefore fails; GRIC s proof of claim trigger[ed] the entire dispute. Langenkamp, 484 U.S. at 44. Indeed, because of that proof of claim, the district court recognized that the Trustee had no choice but to file his Complaint for Declaratory Relief against GRIC seeking, among other things, a declaration of its access rights to Section 16. [ER49] Accordingly, GRIC really stands in the shoes of a plaintiff because it first sought relief in the bankruptcy court, [Id. (emphasis added)], and the Trustee s Complaint for Declaratory Relief was essentially a response to GRIC s bankruptcy filings. No one disputes that GRIC had the authority to file its proof of claim without the United States as a participant. [I]n a suit by an Indian Tribe to protect its interests in tribal lands, regardless of whether the United States is a necessary party under Rule 19(a), it is not an indispensable party in whose absence litigation cannot proceed under Rule 19(b). Puyallup Indian Tribe v. Port of Tacoma, 717 F.2d 1251, 1254 (9th Cir. 1983). Because GRIC sought to protect its alleged interests in tribal lands by filing a proof of claim contending that it has the -5-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 11 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 exclusive right to use and occupy Section 16 and that Section 16 s owner have improperly trespassed over tribal lands to access the property, Puyallup controls. 1 To defeat GRIC s assertion in its proof of claim that Section 16 s owners have no legal access to the property, the Trustee did not need to establish an individual property right in Smith-Enke or Murphy Roads. Property owners abutting a public road have an individual right of access to that road, even if they do not have an individual property right in the road itself. See, e.g., State of Arizona v. Thelberg, 87 Ariz. 318, 324, 350 P.2d 988, 991 (1960) (the owner of property abutting on a public highway possesses, as a matter of law, not only the right to the use of the highway..., but also a private right or easement for the purpose of ingress and egress to and from his property. ) (citations omitted); McMoran v. State of Wash., 345 P.2d 598, 599 (Wash. 1959) ( [T]he established rule of law, which is controlling in the instant case, [is] that the owner of property abutting upon a public thoroughfare has a right to free and convenient access thereto. ); Rose v. State, 123 P.2d 505, 514 (Cal. 1942) (similar). R.S. 2477 thus 1 The district court decided the legal access issue on the merits (including the Trustee s R.S. 2477 argument) despite the absence of the United States because GRIC had asserted claims on its own behalf disputing the access to Section 16 and because equity and good conscience required such a decision. [ER18-20] GRIC does not show an abuse of discretion in the district court s Rule 19 decision, as it is required to do. See N. Alaska Envtl. Ctr. v. Hodel, 803 F.2d 466, 468 (9th Cir. 1986) (Rule 19 determinations reviewed for abuse of discretion). -6-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 12 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 provides an appropriate basis for rejecting GRIC s contentions that no legal access to Section 16 exists. GRIC s argument on standing likewise ignores that the R.S. 2477 issue exists as a defense to its claims. For its argument that no standing exists, GRIC relies (at 40-41) on cases where the plaintiff filed an action against the United States seeking to quiet title to public roads. See Long v. Area Manager, Bureau of Reclamation, 236 F.3d 910, 912 (8th Cir. 2001); Kinscherff v. United States, 586 F.2d 159, 160 (10th Cir. 1978); Friends of Panamint Valley v. Kempthorne, 499 F. Supp. 2d 1165, 1168 (E.D. Cal. 2007); Alleman v. United States, 372 F. Supp. 2d 1212, 1213-14 (D. Ore 2005). That is not what the Trustee has done here. The Trustee has merely cited R.S. 2477 as one of the bases to defeat GRIC s assertions in its bankruptcy filings and counterclaims that Section 16 s owners have improperly used Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads to access their property. A threat of liability for civil or criminal trespass constitutes the type of injury that, in the language of the [Supreme] Court, is both concrete and particularized and actual or imminent [so as to confer standing]. Dixon v. Edwards, 290 F.3d 699, 712 (4th Cir. 2002) (citing Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 504 U.S. 555, 560-61 (1992)). GRIC does not cite any authority for the proposition that the Trustee could be held liable for trespass damages without being able to assert the defense that -7-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 13 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are public roads. Nor could it; hornbook law teaches that in defending against trespass, a right of use by the public is a justification for the exercise of it by a member of the public. C.J.S. Trespass 49 (citing numerous cases); see also Anderson v. Healy, 629 N.E.2d 312, 315 (Mass. App. Ct. 1994) (holding that no trespass occurred when defendants as members of the public, and as landowners abutting a public way,... ha[d] a right to traverse the unimproved portion of [a] cul-de-sac for such purposes as are reasonably necessary and convenient for access to their property. ). Indeed, it would violate the Trustee s due process rights to take away such a basic defense. See Hall v. E. Air Lines, Inc., 511 F.2d 663, 664 (5th Cir. 1975) ( The presentation of one s defense is a basic due process right. ). 2 II. SMITH-ENKE AND MURPHY ROADS ARE PUBLIC ROADS UNDER R.S. 2477. Although GRIC asserts several legal arguments in support of its belief that Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are not R.S. 2477 roads, these arguments either ignore the facts of this case or misconstrue the applicable law. 2 Because GRIC s trespass counterclaim sought damages, its argument (at 15) that its counterclaims were merely filed in response to the [Trustee s] claims, not as affirmative claims for relief collapses. The Trustee has never sought damages from GRIC. -8-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 14 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 A. Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are Public Roads Under Arizona Law. GRIC argues at length (at 45-47) that state, and not federal, law controls the question of whether a road has been established as a highway under R.S. 2477. This proposition, although debatable, makes no difference in this case because Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads did comply with Arizona laws regarding the creation of public roads. GRIC s contention (at 44) that [t]he Trustee has submitted no evidence that either Smith-Enke Road or Murphy Road was ever located, recorded, or otherwise identified by the board of supervisors as a highway under state law ignores the Trustee s evidence and the district court s factual findings. In fact, Pinal County issued a declaration in 1922 that created public roads along all section lines in the Valley District an area that included Section 16 as well as the other sections in its township. [ER10 at 76; see also SER 258-62] That declaration embraced Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads, because they are located along section lines in the Valley District. [See ER8 at 46, 50] Importantly, Pinal County s declaration was specifically designed to conform with Arizona law. In the declaration itself, Pinal County stated that it was acting in compliance with Paragraph 5057, Revised Statutes of Arizona, 1913, and acts amendatory thereto. [SER 258-62] At that time, Section 5057 described the process for Arizona s counties to create public roads. [See Trustee s Opening Br., -9-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 15 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Ex. C] The declaration described all the steps Pinal County took to comply with that process. 3 GRIC offers no opposition on this key point, and in fact, does not even address Section 5057 in its response brief. B. Executive Order Indian Reservations are Not Exempt from R.S. 2477. GRIC apparently ignores Pinal County s 1922 declaration of public roads on the grounds that this declaration occurred after the 1913 executive order that added the land to the south, east, and west of Section 16 to the GRIC Reservation. According to GRIC (at 42), the 1913 Executive Order withdrew the lands over which Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads currently run from the public domain, and thus the Trustee must establish that the State officially established Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads, in their present location, as public highways before 1913. GRIC s theory is incorrect, however, because it would allow the Executive Branch to impermissibly intrude on Congress s plenary authority over public lands. 3 As the declaration explained, Pinal County complied with all of the requirements of Section 5057, including (i) a signed petition for the creation of the public roads; (ii) public notice of the petition; (iii) appointment of road viewers and the location of the roads by said viewers; (iv) public notice of the county s final hearing regarding the roads; and (v) a final hearing. [SER 258-62] -10-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 16 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 GRIC does not dispute that public lands means lands which are subject to sale or other disposal under general laws. Columbia Basin Land Protection Ass n v. Schlesinger, 643 F.2d 585, 602 (9th Cir. 1981) (citing Supreme Court precedent). That alienability distinguishes public from private lands Congress can sell public lands, it cannot sell private land. Id. (public lands do not include land[s], to which any claims or rights of others have attached. ) (citing Supreme Court precedent). GRIC instead argues that executive order Indian reservations do not meet the definition of public lands, contending (at 50-51) that the 1883 and 1913 Executive Orders that expanded the Reservation s boundaries expressly provided that the lands reserved for the Gila River Indian Reservation were not subject to sale or disposal. GRIC is wrong. The President cannot limit Congress s authority over public lands via executive order [t]he power over the public land... entrusted to Congress is without limitations. Kleppe v. New Mexico, 426 U.S. 529, 539 (1976) (emphasis added; citation omitted); see also Elephant Butte Irrigation Dist. of N.M. v. United States Dep t of Interior, 269 F.3d 1158, 1166 (10th Cir. 2001) ( Congress plainly has plenary power over the management of federal lands under the United States Constitution. ). Thus, as GRIC concedes (at 50-51), Congress can sell or otherwise dispose of lands within an executive order Indian reservation whenever it desires, regardless of the language of the executive order. See 25 U.S.C. 398d. -11-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 17 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 GRIC s only response to this Congressional power is its assertion (at 50-51) that Congress can always change its mind by enacting new legislation (unless constitutionally constrained) and thus can statutorily change the status of lands granted by statute as much as by Executive Order. But lands set aside by executive order have not been granted the President has no power to convey public lands absent an express delegation by Congress. See Sioux Tribe of Indians v. United States, 316 U.S. 317, 326 (1942) ( Since the Constitution places the authority to dispose of public lands exclusively in Congress, the executive s power to convey any interest in these lands must be traced to Congressional delegation of its authority. ); Karuk Tribe of Cal. v. Ammon, 209 F.3d 1366, 1374 (Fed. Cir. 2000) (similar). Moreover, lands designated in an executive order have not changed in status they remain public lands until Congress sells or otherwise disposes of them. See Columbia Basin, 643 F.2d at 602. GRIC also cites (at 48) United States v. Midwest Oil Co., 236 U.S. 459 (1915) for the proposition that controlling precedent establishes that an Executive Order land grant withdraw[s] or reserv[es] parts of the public domain. 4 But the Trustee is not arguing that executive orders setting aside lands for Indian reservations are legally invalid, nor is he arguing that the President has no 4 United States v. Midwest Oil involved an executive order that withdrew certain public lands from oil and mining claims. 236 U.S. 459 467 (1914). The Court did not address R.S. 2477. -12-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 18 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 authority over public lands. See, e.g., Best v. Humboldt Placer Mining Co., 371 U.S. 334, 339 (1963) ( Congress has entrusted the Department of the Interior with the management of the public domain. ). But an executive order cannot transform public land into private land since the order does not (i) convey any property interests, see Sioux Tribe, 316 U.S. at 326; Karuk Tribe, 209 F.3d at 1374; or (ii) prevent Congress from later selling the land, see 25 U.S.C. 398d. The President also has no authority to override Congress will concerning the management of public lands. See United States v. Cal., 332 U.S. 19, 27 (1947) (because of Congress plenary power over federal lands, neither the courts nor the executive agencies, [can] proceed contrary to an Act of Congress in this congressional area of national power. ); Cosmos Exploration Co. v. Gray Eagle Oil Co., 112 F. 4, 11 (9th Cir. 1901) ( The commissioner of the general land office has authority to make regulations respecting the disposal of the public lands, and such regulations, when not repugnant to the acts of congress, have the force and effect of laws. ) (emphasis added). But this is exactly what would happen if executive order Indian reservations were construed as removing lands from R.S. 2477 s reach. As GRIC explains (at 38), Congress enacted R.S. 2477 with the goal of facilitat[ing] settlement of the American West. If the President had the authority to limit or rescind this grant by excluding large portions of public lands via executive order, he could frustrate Congress intent. Given Congress s plenary -13-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 19 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 authority over public lands, only it has the power to rescind or limit R.S. 2477 s grant. In fact, Congress expressly did so by repealing R.S. 2477 in 1976 while recognizing that pre-existing R.S. 2477 roads remained in effect. See 43 U.S.C. 1769(a). Finally, GRIC cites (at 48) Adams v. United States, 3 F.3d 1254 (9th Cir. 1993) ( Adams I ), as holding that land reserved for national forests by Executive Order is not public land. In the case of national forests, however, Congress made clear its intent to make R.S. 2477 inapplicable. At the time of the executive order reservation in Adams I, Congress had expressly delegated to the President the authority to reserve lands for national forests. See Creative Act of 1891, 16 U.S.C. 471 (repealed by the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976, Pub. L. No. 94-579, 704(a), 90 Stat. 2792). Congress gave no similar delegation to the President, however, to exempt executive order Indian reservations from R.S. 2477 s reach. C. Any Historical Shifting of Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads is Irrelevant. GRIC contends (at 44) that the Trustee has not established the existence of highways because the Trustee s expert testimony shows that the roads indicated on the Trustee s maps [as of 1919] were not in the same location as present-day Smith-Enke Road and Murphy Road. Such movement, however, makes no difference to the R.S. 2477 analysis. -14-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 20 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 The district court found that after 1922, maps and aerials show the alignment of Smith-Enke Road and Murphy Road on section lines. [ER10 at 77] GRIC does not address this factual finding, and thus does not show that it was clearly erroneous. See Adams I, 3 F.3d at 1257 (in reviewing R.S. 2477 determinations, this Court review[s] issues of fact for clear error. ). Because Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads remained in the same location as their present-day position after Pinal County s 1922 declaration of public roads, any pre-1922 movement of these roads is irrelevant. In any event, the Supreme Court has specifically held that the shifting of a road is not material in determining whether roads fall within R.S. 2477 s grant: The original road was formed by the passage of wagons, etc., over the natural soil, and we know, as a matter of ordinary observation, that in such cases the line of travel is subject to occasional deviations owing to changes brought about by storms, temporary obstructions, and other causes. But, so far as the specific parcels of land here in dispute are concerned, we find nothing in the record to compel the conclusion that any departure from the line of the original highway was of such extent as to destroy the identity of the road as originally laid out and used. Even in the case of highways sought to be established by prescription, where the user must be confined to a definite line, slight deviations are not regarded as material. Cent. Pac. Ry., 284 U.S. at 467 (recognizing R.S. 2477 road); see also Wilkensen v. Dep t of Interior, 634 F. Supp. 1265, 1275 (D. Colo. 1985) (same; It has long been the law that the course of a right of way may be altered without destruction of the right of way. ). -15-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 21 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 The rationale of Central Pacific Railway applies here. The district court found that [d]irt wagon trails were the primary roadways in south-central Arizona in the 1800 s and early 1900 s [ER10 at 67], and [r]oads existing in 1913 were flexible in their location because of water run-off and flooding, among other reasons. [ER10 at 71] However, the district court also determined that [a]t all relevant times, there have been roadways that touched, provided access to, or physically crossed Section 16. [ER10 at 75 (emphasis added)] 5 [P]roof of the establishment of a road raises a presumption of its continuance. Cent. Pac. Ry., 248 U.S. at 468. Even though the district court found that roads to Section 16 existed at all relevant times, GRIC offers no evidence to rebut the presumption here. Quite the opposite, the evidence at trial showed that these roads have served the same purpose over time, with the eastwest road (now known as Smith-Enke Road) providing a route from Maricopa to Sacaton, and the north-south road (now known as Murphy Road) providing a route from Casa Blanca Road to major highways to the south of Section 16. [ER8 at 47, 50-51, ER10 at 68, 73; SER22] Thus, just like the road in Central Pacific 5 GRIC does not show any clear error in these factual findings. In contending (at 44) that there was no evidence that roads existed that provided access to Section 16 in the early 1900 s, GRIC solely focuses on the maps that were admitted as trial exhibits. But GRIC ignores that its own expert conceded that in 1911, 1912, and 1913, there were roads that provided physical access to Section 16. [ER10 at 70] -16-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 22 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Railway, Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads have retained the same identity over time and fall within R.S. 2477 s grant. 6 Relief Requested This Court should hold that Smith-Enke and Murphy Roads are public roads under R.S. 2477, and reverse the district court s holding to the contrary. January 30, 2009 Respectfully submitted, PERKINS COIE BROWN & BAIN P.A. By s/ Paul F. Eckstein Paul F. Eckstein Richard M. Lorenzen Joel W. Nomkin Counsel for G. Grant Lyon, Appellee/Cross Appellant 6 GRIC cites (at 45) Adams I, 3 F.3d at 1256-58, for its proposition that R.S. 2477 roads cannot shift in location, but that case is inapposite. In Adams I, the evidence showed that a historical road had ceased to exist, and a new road was built in a similar location several years after it had disappeared. 3 F.3d at 1257. Here, the district court came to the opposite conclusion, finding that roads providing access to Section 16 have existed [a]t all relevant times. [ER10 at 75] -17-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 23 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Certificate of Service I hereby certify that on January 30, 2009, I electronically filed the foregoing with the Clerk of the Court for the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit by using the appellate CM/ECF system. I certify that all participants in the case are registered CM/ECF users and that service will be accomplished by the appellate CM/ECF system. s/ Paul F. Eckstein -18-

Case: 08-15712 01/30/2009 Page: 24 of 24 DktEntry: 6791966 Certificate of Compliance 1. This reply brief complies with the type-volume limitation of Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 28.1(e)(2)(C) because this brief contains 4,055 words, excluding the parts of the brief exempted by Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 32(a)(7)(B)(iii). 2. This brief complies with the typeface requirements of Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 32(a)(5) and the type style requirements of Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 32(a)(6) because this brief has been prepared in a proportionally spaced typeface (14-point Times New Roman) using Microsoft Word 2002. s/ Paul F. Eckstein -19-