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European Economic and Social Committee Brussels, 30 November 2004 MINUTES of the inaugural meting of the Liaison Group with European civil society organisations and networks held in the Committee building, Brussels on 29 September 2004 99 rue Belliard, B-1040 Brussels. Tel. +32 (0)2 546 90 11 Fax +32 (0)2 513 48 93 Internet http://www.esc.eu.int EN

- 1 - The inaugural meeting of the Liaison Group between the EESC and the European civil society networks was held in Brussels, on 29 September 2004, under the Chairmanship of Roger Briesch, EESC President. * * * ATTENDANCE LIST Members of the Liaison Group EESC representatives Roger BRIESCH Ann DAVISON José Maria ESPUNY MOYANO Henri MALOSSE Giacomo REGALDO Mario SEPI Victor Hugo SEQUEIRA Anne-Marie SIGMUND EESC President President of the REX section President of the NAT section President of the ECO section Group I President Group II President President of the INT section Group III President Representatives of European civil society organisations and networks Giampiero ALHADEFF Patrick DE BUCQUOIS Tommaso GRIMALDI, Ron HENDRIKS, Ilona KISH, Henrik KRÖNER Gérard LESEUL Mary McPHAIL Noël MOLISSE Board Member, European NGOs Confederation for Relief and Development (CONCORD) Secretary-General, European Council for Voluntary Organisations (CEDAG) Secretary-General, European Association for Education of Adults (EAEA), Education and civil society platform President, International Association of Mutual Benefit Societies (AIM) Secretary-General, European Forum for the Arts and Heritage (EFAH-FEAP) Secretary-General, European Movement International (EMI) Vice Delegate-General, Coordinating Committee of European Cooperative Associations (CCACE) (replacing Etienne Pfimlin, CCACE President) Secretary-General, European Women s Lobby (EWL/ LEF) Ex-director of Studies, Confederation of Family

- 2 - Jim MURRAY Daniel SPOEL Renaldas VAISBRODAS Organisations in the European Union (COFACE) (replacing. William LAY, Director of COFACE) Director, European Consumers' Organisation, (BEUC) Administrator, Permanent Forum of Civil Society Vice-President, European Youth Forum (EYF/FEJ) (replacing Giacomo Filibek, EYF President) Liaison Group members - apologies received EESC representatives Alexander von SCHWERIN Jan OLSSON President of the TEN section President of the SOC section Representatives of European civil society organisations and networks Giacomo FILIBECK William LAY Etienne PFIMLIN President, European Youth Forum (FEJ/EYF) Director, Confederation of family organisations in the European Union (COFACE) President, General, Coordinating Committee of European Cooperative Associations (CCACE) Other representatives of European civil society organisations and networks in attendance Jacqueline DE GROOTE Ellinor HAASE Marie RANTY Jean-Marc ROIRANT Johanna TZANIDAKI Administrator, Permanent Forum of Civil Society Secretary-General, European Association for Education of Adults (EAEA), Education and civil society platform Director, European Council for Voluntary Organisations (CEDAG) Secretary-General, Ligue française de l'enseignement et de l'éducation permanente, Education and civil society platform Secretary-General, European Youth Forum (FEJ/EYF) Observer Dr Jeremy KENDALL Centre for Civil Society, London School of Economics (LSE) EESC secretariat JANSEN, Head of President s private office

- 3 - ALEXOPOULOS, Director General Affairs (DAG) FÈVE, Head of the Unit for Relations with Civil Society Organisations, Future of Europe FULAR, Head of the Secretary-General's secretariat JUNGK, Director of consultative work (Directorate - B) 1. Welcome address by Roger Briesch, President of the EESC The full statement is appended to these minutes. 2. Presentation of the members of the Liaison Group All the members of the Liaison Group were invited in turn to introduce themselves and the organisation or network they represented. 3. Appointment of the co-chair by the members of the Liaison Group representing European civil society organisations and networks The co-chair, in coordination with the EESC President, would be responsible for drafting the agendas and moderating Liaison Group meetings. Kröner, seconded by Alhadeff, suggested that the representatives of European civil society organisations and networks should be invited to submit the names of their nominees for the post of co-chair to the EESC Secretariat. The Secretariat would then communicate their nominations to the entire group, which would formally appoint the co-chair at the subsequent Liaison Group meeting. 4. Possible appointment of alternates The members of the Liaison Group representing civil society organisations and networks would be able to appoint alternates if they wish to do so. These alternates would also be able to attend meetings alongside full members, albeit as observers. The alternates names are to be submitted to the EESC Secretariat. The appointment of alternates has the following advantages: it would ensure a higher level of participation by organised civil society representatives; and alternates would contribute further to the dissemination of information within the sectors of civil society represented by the members. For the same reasons underlying their appointment to the Liaison Group, no alternates are to be appointed for EESC representatives. 5. Members expectations for the Liaison Group

- 4 - Alhadeff (CONCORD) stressed the importance of establishing systematic crosssector dialogue with European institutions on matters of common interest to European civil society organisations and networks. Over the years, organisations had succeeded in developing constructive sectoral dialogue with the institutions but cross-sector dialogue was still inadequate. The Liaison Group could engage in such political dialogue with the highest authorities of the Commission. Alhadeff cited the implementation of Article 47 on participatory democracy, the Lisbon strategy and the Community programme for civic participation as examples of matters of common interest. Spoel (Permanent Forum for Civil Society) agreed with Alhadeff but emphasised that his network was also concerned by communication between European institutions and citizens. Experience showed that communicating effectively and making oneself understood were prerequisites for promoting participatory democracy and making European citizenship meaningful. He noted that despite previous dissemination efforts, the situation left something to be desired. He therefore urged the Liaison Group to discuss how institutions, and the Commission in particular, could improve communication. De Bucquois (CEDAG) believed that it was extremely important to find a balance between affirming the EESC s role as a privileged interlocutor for organised civil society in the European debate and maintaining the direct, and sometimes privileged, contact that certain organisations had with European institutions. It was therefore essential not to neglect coordination between organised civil society and EESC sections, within the framework of the Committee s consultative work, but rather to extend it. Vaisbrodas (EYF) pointed out that one of the European Youth Forum s priorities was to encourage citizens to play a more active part in the EU democratic process. The Forum also hoped that the Liaison Group would create a space where matters of common interest could be discussed. NGO financing was one such matter that warranted priority attention. Kröner (EMI) considered that the document submitted to the participants provided a clear description of the Liaison Group s mandate and responsibilities. The Liaison Group would act as a facilitator and mediator in the dialogue between the institutions and organised civil society. McPhail (EWL) agreed with previous speakers. She noted that the previous statements had already highlighted two points: on the one hand, the importance of strengthening dialogue and communication between the EESC and organised civil society at European level and, on the other hand, the need for civil society organisations to commit themselves entirely to developing participatory society so as to ensure that citizens were heard by European institutions. It was with the second objective in mind that the Liaison Group should define its work priorities for the following months. Furthermore, the Liaison Group s success would be evaluated in that light. Murray (BEUC) stated that his organisations members shared McPhail s concerns. He believed that the Liaison Group s future would be determined by its ability to demonstrate

- 5 - its practical use and added value in comparison with the direct relations that organisations and networks would have with the institutions. In that respect and with reference to the Liaison Group s mandate, he considered point 1 (information sharing) point 2 (identifying areas for cooperation) and point 5 (examining areas of common interest) to be priorities. With regard to point 3 (examining the feasibility and practical arrangement for further involving networks in the EESC s consultative work) and point 4 (consultation and cooperation on the preparation of events), he considered that it would be difficult to do more than what was already being done. BEUC participated and would continue to participate in the work and activities of the Committee whenever this was intrinsically useful and viable, and not because he was a member of the Liaison Group. Murray advocated a realistic approach that prioritised political lobbying that would enable his organisation to present its concerns to the institutions and enable certain causes to gather political momentum. The President observed that there was a general consensus on the need to prioritise cross-sector dialogue and on the importance of communication in two distinct areas, i.e. the Constitutional Treaty and, secondly, permanent dialogue with citizens on all Community policies. He also noted that the speakers statements coincided perfectly with EESC concerns and his expectations for the Liaison Group. He stressed that the Liaison Group s mandate was not rigid but open to further debate and developments. He specified that the contents of the document distributed to the participants were the fruit of discussions held between the EESC and the organisations and networks themselves, some of which had expressed the wish to be more involved in the Committee s work and initiatives. All parties were therefore free to decide whether or not to raise their present level of involvement. Furthermore, it was for the Liaison Group to reach an internal decision regarding the priorities that would drive its work. Alhadeff also pointed out that the mandate, as drafted, did not establish an order of priorities. In that context, he reaffirmed the importance of cross-sector dialogue. Murray added that his statement was merely intended to underline that the Liaison Group s activities, irrespective of what they might be, would have to be in the interest of all. This was particularly the case for point 5 of the mandate. The President then brought the discussion to a close, noting the broad consensus within the Liaison Group regarding its objectives and the thrust of its activities. 6. Matters to be added to the agenda of subsequent meetings and joint initiatives to be considered The president informed the Liaison Group of the suggestions that he had already received from Alhadeff (CONCORD) and Pfimlin (CCACE), namely: Giampiero Alhadeff s proposals

- 6 - A high-level debate on the Lisbon Strategy with Wim Kok or one of his representatives; An exchange of views with the European Commission Directorate-General for Education and Culture to discuss the new programme for civic participation, which the Commission was to submit in 2005 (this exchange of views could be followed by broader consultation with European organised civil society, within an open forum); Examination of issue of the financing of civil society organisations; and High-level discussion meetings with Commission representatives to establish systematic dialogue between the Commission and the Liaison Group on cross-sector issues (José Manuel Barroso, Margot Wallström and David O Sullivan were suggested). Pflimlin s proposals concerning priority issues Structuring civil dialogue with EU institutions; Involving civil society in structural policies and programmes (concepts, implementation, and assessment); Sustainable development; The European Union s future financial and budget structure; and Enlargement. Spoel suggested that the order of priorities should be discussed at the following meeting, which would give the members of the Liaison Group the time to discuss the matter with their constituents. Hendriks (AIM) suggested that the Liaison Group should tackle the issue of social services of general interest and, in particular, the Bolkenstein Directive on services in the internal market. Alhadeff sympathised with Hendriks suggestion but felt that the Liaison Group was not the appropriate channel for this debate. Nevertheless, Hendriks was invited to discuss the most appropriate manner and framework for addressing this issue. He agreed with Spoel in principle but believed that certain issues had to be examined on an urgent basis and could not be postponed: NGO financing, the programme for civic participation and cross-sector dialogue with the Commission.

- 7 - Murray suggested that members of the Liaison Group should submit written proposals concerning the issues to be discussed but admitted that financing should be addressed on an urgent basis. He also expressed an interest in Hendriks suggestion. Kröner also agreed that there was a pressing need to discuss NGO financing rules with the Commission. Alhadeff suggested that the Group begin by discussing the three urgent issues that he had put forward. In the meantime, the members of the Group could submit written proposals. With regard to financing, he pointed out that there were already a number of recommendations by European organisations and networks that could prove useful to the Liaison Group. Several members of the Liaison Group, including Kröner, Kish, Murray, De Bucquois and McPhail, wondered how to follow up the Liaison Group s discussions and relay common concerns that might arise in that context. The President and Alhadeff recommended a pragmatic approach, explaining that it was essential to first come together to examine the matters proposed. The Group would then discuss the best way to convey its concerns, bearing in mind that the appropriate methods and procedures might vary from case to case. At the request of Kish, Kröner and Spoel, the President and Jansen, the head of his private office, provided the Liaison Group with information concerning the civil society hearing on the Constitutional Treaty, which the Committee on Constitutional affairs of the European parliament is organising on 25th November, and the preparatory meeting to be held at the EESC on 9 November. At the end of the discussion, the Liaison Group agreed in principle to consider the following three matters at its next meeting: An exchange of views with the Budget Directorate-General on the matter of financing civil society organisations. An exchange of views with the Directorate-General for Education and Culture on the new programme for civic participation, to be submitted by the Commission at the beginning of 2005. An exchange of views with a high-level representative of the Commission on structured dialogue between the European institutions and civil society organisations and networks. 7. Working methods and frequency of meetings The Liaison Group agreed on the following points: Frequency of Liaison Group meetings

- 8 - months. At Alhadeff s suggestion, the Liaison Group agreed in principle to meet every two Kröner nevertheless pointed out that a frequency of every three mouths might prove sufficient. The next Liaison Group meeting should therefore be held, in principle, towards the end of November, and in any case before the end of the year, in view of the installation of the incoming Commission and renewal of EESC bodies. Communication between the members of the Liaison Group The EESC Secretariat would forward the details of the representatives of civil society organisations and networks to all members of the Liaison Group. Publicising the Liaison Group s work Coverage of the Liaison Group s work would be as broad as possible. The EESC website would include a page (under the heading Organised Civil Society ) featuring its agendas, the minutes of its meetings and all other relevant documents. Drafting meeting agendas The co-chairs would work together to draft agendas. Drafting the minutes of meetings The minutes would be drafted by the EESC secretariat and submitted to the members of the Liaison Group for their comments and approval, prior to translation and distribution. Access to EESC buildings The President, in response to De Bucquois, explained that the issue of simplifying access to EESC buildings for representatives of European civil society organisations and networks was being examined. The President undertook to ensure a viable and speedy solution. Reimbursement of the travel expenses for representatives of European civil society organisations and networks The president, in response to Kish, explained that the reimbursement of travel expenses for representatives of European civil society organisations and networks was not planned for the moment but might, in the light of experience, be considered at a future date.

- 9 - The President added that according to Bloch-Lainé s report the Liaison Group would be established for a trial two-year period, which would be followed by another report. The question of reimbursement could be addressed at that stage. Nevertheless, he did not exclude the possibility of bringing the matter before the relevant EESC authorities before that date. 8. Other business In answer to De Bucquois regarding the possibility of organisation and network representatives meeting before Liaison Group meetings, the President stated that the Committee would authorise the request. 9. Date of the next meeting Member of the Liaison Group would be informed of the date of the next meeting following consultation with the incoming Committee presidency, whose term of office would begin on 28 October. At the end of the proceedings, Kröner thanked President Briesch for setting up the Liaison Group and chairing its inaugural meeting and stated that he was confident that cooperation between the EESC and European civil society organisations and networks would be successful. In his concluding comments, the President described the meeting as a historic event and thanked the participants.