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Case :0-cv-08-SRD-JCW Document 9 Filed 0/9/00 Page of UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT EASTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA COLLEEN BERTHELOT, WIFE OF, * Civil Action No. 0-8, and JACKIE BERTHELOT, ET AL, * c/w Nos. 0-8, 0-9, * 0-8, 0-7, 0-07, Plaintiffs, * 0-, 0-, 0-, * 0-7, 0-9, 0-000, v. * 0-0, 0-0, 0-0, * 0-09, 0-0, 0-088, BOH BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION * 0-7, 0-7, 0-7 COMPANY, LLC, ET AL, * * Section K Defendants. * * New Orleans, Louisiana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * May 0, 00 EXCERPT OF HEARING BEFORE THE HONORABLE JOSEPH C. WILKINSON, JR., UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE APPEARANCES: For Consol Plaintiff Ali Haghighi, 0-07: For Consol Plaintiff Frederick Bradley, 0-9: For Consol Plaintiff Dawn Bundy, 0-8: Lambert & Nelson By: HUGH P. LAMBERT, ESQ. 70 Magazine Street New Orleans, Louisiana 700 Gainsburgh, Benjamin, David, Meunier & Warshauer, LLC By: KARA HADICAN, ESQ. 00 Poydras Street, Suite 800 New Orleans, Louisiana 70-800 Ashton R. O Dwyer, Jr., Attorney at Law By: ASHTON R. O DWYER, JR., ESQ. One Canal Place, Suite 70 New Orleans, Louisiana 700

Case :0-cv-08-SRD-JCW Document 9 Filed 0/9/00 Page of APPEARANCES CONT D. For Consol Plaintiffs Fitzmorris, et al: For Defendant Boh Bros.: For the United States of America: Court Audio Operator: Transcriptionist: Carlos A. Zelaya, II, Attorney at Law By: CARLOS A. ZELAYA, II, ESQ. 90 Julia Street New Orleans, Louisiana 70 Kingsmill Riess, LLC By: MICHAEL R. C. RIESS, ESQ. 0 St. Charles Ave., Suite 00 New Orleans, Louisiana 7070 U.S. Department of Justice Torts Branch By: ROBIN SMITH, ESQ. By: TRACI L. COLQUETTE, ESQ. Benjamin Franklin Station P.O. Box 888 Washington, DC 00 Cindy Usner Dorothy Bourgeois c/o U.S. District Court 00 Poydras Street, Room C New Orleans, Louisiana 700 (0) 89-77 Proceedings recorded by electronic sound recording, transcript produced by transcription service.

Case :0-cv-08-SRD-JCW Document 9 Filed 0/9/00 Page of 7 8 9 0 P R O C E E D I N G S (Wednesday, May 0, 00) (EXCERPT OF PROCEEDINGS) MR. O'DWYER: It s very unusual. THE COURT: I m loathe to do it, because of the -- MR. O'DWYER: It would lift the veil, Your Honor, I respectfully submit. Point Number Two, Ashton O Dwyer on behalf of his clients is serving notice upon the United States of America and whatever witnesses it s going to call in this case whether expert or fact that I have sitting on this table eight packets of photographs that were taken by the internationally renown photographer, David Spielman, who is from New Orleans, and Mr. Pazzos (phonetic), or both of 7 th Street, London Avenue 7 8 9 0 North and London Avenue South. I m holding three of them in my hand. I m not going to show them to you though, but I m going to tell you what they depict. Number one, broken concrete housing water stops at the edges of monolith panels. Number two, ripped and torn PVC water stops, and three, broken concrete at the hinge where concrete monolith panels met steel sheet pile. THE COURT: You have photographs of these things you say? MR. O'DWYER: I certainly do, Your Honor. THE COURT: Then why do you need to go see it then?

Case :0-cv-08-SRD-JCW Document 9 Filed 0/9/00 Page of 7 8 9 0 7 8 9 0 MR. O'DWYER: Your Honor, the point is I wanted the opportunity to verify what I already have by seeing the Corps evidence. We have not been shown any of that since my discovery war with the United States gun. THE COURT: Okay. Mr. O Dwyer, -- MR. O'DWYER: Just a moment -- THE COURT: -- let me stop you if I can, -- MR. O'DWYER: Your Honor -- THE COURT: -- because this may be one of these situations where you re arguing yourself into a defeat. MR. O'DWYER: No, Your Honor, you re misinterpreting what I m saying. You re misinterpreting what I m saying. I did not have the opportunity to photograph each and every concrete panel s edge or bottom. They were buried shortly after Mr. Spielman and Mr. Pazzos were out there. The Corps has said in affidavits that their unearthing was necessary because they re building a T-wall, but they haven t been shown to us before they ve been destroyed. And this T-wall notion is as false as is Mr. Davidson s affidavit. There was no working going on, for instance, at 7 th Street on Monday or Tuesday -- Saturday or Sunday of this weekend. The T-wall is not even supposed to be installed, if indeed it is installed, until August the 9 th. I mean these are not true statements by witnesses for and lawyers for our Government.

Case :0-cv-08-SRD-JCW Document 9 Filed 0/9/00 Page of 7 8 9 0 THE COURT: Oh, Mr. O Dwyer, since you re so fond of quoting to me from the jury instructions that I read the juries over and over again, let me remind you of a few things, all right. You are a lawyer; you are not a witness. What you say is not evidence. If you have some evidence to show that the Court has been submitted an affidavit that is false, then submit it with an appropriate motion, all right. MR. O'DWYER: Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: The motion that is before me today is dismissed as moot. There s nothing further on the docket; Court is in recess. MR. O'DWYER: Thank you. * * * * * (Hearing is Concluded) 7 8 9 0

Case :0-cv-08-SRD-JCW Document 9 Filed 0/9/00 Page of C E R T I F I C A T E I certify that the foregoing is a correct transcript from the electronic sound recording of the proceeding in the above-entitled matter. /S/Dorothy M. Bourgeois /9/0 DOROTHY M. BOURGEOIS DATE