Metropolitan Kansas City Chapter International Code Council CHAPTER P.O. Box 15080 Kansas City, MO 64106-0080 www.metrokcicbo.org FEBRUARY 2004 NEWSLETTER MINUTES OF THE METROPOLITAN KANSAS CITY CHAPTER OF ICC JANUARY 21, 2004 I. Call to Order: President Mike Davis called the meeting to order at approximately 6:20 p.m. at Grandview City Hall, 1200 Main, in Grandview, Missouri. II. Roll Call of Officers and Board of Directors: Officers: President--Mike Davis, C.B.O., Miami County, Ks. Vice President--Greg Ford, C.B.O., Grain Valley, Mo. Secretary Melissa Brill, Kansas City, MO. Treasurer--Sy Noorbakhsh, C.B.O., Kansas City, Mo. Absent Directors Through: 2004 Geoff Bowen, Grandview, Mo. Gary Marker, R.A., Kansas City, Mo. Eirene Oliphant, C.B.O., Lenexa, Ks. 2005 Donald Booth, P.E., C.B.O., Kansas City, Mo. Steve Cope, Grandview, Mo. Mark Dunning, Lee's Summit, Mo. III. Approval of December 20, 2003, Meeting Minutes: Alan Napoli moved that the November minutes be accepted as presented; Nick Workman seconded the motion; and the motion was unanimously approved by voice vote of members present. IV. President s Report: No report was presented, although Mike Davis did note that he was going to Jefferson City the following day to meet regarding organizing the State of Missouri Chapter and wished to discuss negotiating points under new business. V. Secretary s Report: Melissa Brill requested that members note their current contact information on the sign-in sheet and advise her of any changes during the year as a number of e-mails had come back marked undeliverable. She also requested notification if members employers limited the size or type of e-mail attachments so she could fax or mail those members minutes and other critical information. Approximately 40 members minutes had to be mailed, an increase over the previous year. 1
VI. Treasurer's Report: No treasurer s report was presented. However, Mike Davis noted that some renewal invoices had already been distributed and the remainder would be distributed by the chapter secretary along with the minutes. Forms and payment were to be returned to Sy Noorbakhsh. VII. Committee Reports Budget and Finance No report was presented. However, Greg Ford moved that the Budget and Finance Committee provide a recommended line-item budget for the September or October meeting for action at the next ABM. Eirene Oliphant seconded the motion, and it was unanimously approved by voice vote of members present. Bylaws No report was presented. Education Mike Davis stated that he was working with Heather from ICC and that there would be a one-day seminar in conjunction with the code hearings. Meetings and Programs Greg Ford noted that the group needed to establish which meetings would be evening meetings and which would be luncheon meetings. Mike Davis indicated that Nick Workman had five or six potential guest speakers. Mike asked about planning for the Spring Meeting. Nick Workman had heard nothing yet but said he would be meeting with HBA representatives. Community Relations No report was presented. Code Change and Interpretation VIII. Old Business: Ron Worley had hosted two meetings on code changes and challenges. Industry representatives and associates had participated. Eight or nine challenges had been submitted. Ron would provide members copies when the challenges were published. Mike Davis stated that he would like that information included on the chapter s website. There was no old business discussed. IX. New Business: Greg Ford stated that Simpson Strong-Tie Company, Inc. would be presenting seminars for inspectors and code professionals in the metropolitan area on April 29 and 30. He suggested that the chapter seek to set up a half-day inspectors' seminar for the day preceding or the day following the Spring Meeting. The seminar and lunch would be complimentary, but the chapter would have to guarantee at least 30 participants. He was to forward the information to the secretary for inclusion with the February Newsletter. 2
Greg noted that HBA had hosted a gathering of Jackson County building officials. The primary focus appeared to be following the Johnson County, Kansas, model of standardizing codes and requirements. He suggested that the Jackson County coalition be created as a subset of the Metro Chapter, meeting at designated intervals, as Johnson County s building officials did. Mike Davis noted that Johnson County attendees were usually building officials and administrators who were charged with establishing uniform policies, processes, licensing requirements, code interpretations, etc. These items were discussed: That kicking off a joint effort under the Metro Chapter s aegis at an evening meeting might be a good idea. That the effort might lead to greater consistency among the jurisdictions involved. That the first thrust was anticipated to be contractor licensing. It was noted that part of the problem was that all the cities in Jackson County had different ordinances and requirements. Kansas City, Missouri, representatives indicated that, although they had gone to standardized Experior Assessments, LLC and ICC exams, they still had minimum education, age, and experience requirements that must be met for certification; the fact that some jurisdictions only minimum qualification was testing was a stumbling block to reciprocity. They noted that applicants were being tested without prescreening; therefore, those jurisdictions relying on Kansas City, Missouri, exam scores as indicators of Kansas City, Missouri, certification needed to actually verify certification had been achieved. Ron Worley noted that Johnson County required continuing education to maintain certification in lieu of proving qualifications prior to certification. That HBA seemed most interested in a metro wide group meeting every couple of months; it was noted that having one metro wide group rather than individual Jackson and Johnson County groups would be a better way to involve all counties on both sides of the state line. That the chapter could present a panel of building officials in a forum setting to answer contractors questions. That HBA had requested a regular slot on the chapter s agenda to raise issues on behalf of its members; regularly attended Johnson County meetings; and had as many as four members affiliated with ICC. (Note: The secretary's membership records list only one HBA representative, Fred C. Buckley III.) That Kansas City, Missouri, would be interested in the creation of a metro wide licensing committee through the chapter and coordination of a roundtable discussion by building officials and contractors to compare code packages and minimum qualifications. It was also noted that Kansas City, Missouri, planned to add a residential builder license classification. That HBA should be encouraged to set up the proposed group(s) and invite jurisdictions to participate. The chapter could furnish a mailing list. Greg Ford had spoken with Fred Buckley, HBA, about sponsoring a hospitality suite at the Spring Meeting. He was working with Eirene Oliphant, Bill Watson, Nick Workman, and Ron Worley on the event. The chapter needed to establish a dollar limit and ask HBA to match it. Nick indicated that he would be working with Heather to piggyback off the ICC contract for a low- or no-cost room. Fred had suggested two meeting dates, which Greg was to forward to the rest of the committee. Nick was to forward the information he had received, as well. Mike Davis noted that he might attend the meetings and that all of the activities were scheduled at the hotel, not the convention center. Nick was to check with Heather about bringing in outside food and beverages instead of having the hotel cater it. 3
The 2004 meeting schedule was discussed. Meetings would generally be the third Wednesday of the month. The May meeting date would fall during the Spring Meeting. The chapter meeting could be used as a regional meeting to bring in other chapters to discuss regional issues, including the make-up and function of the regional chapter itself; the meeting date could be moved up to May 12 to give the Metro Chapter a chance to tie down last-minute details before the Spring Meeting; or it could be dropped entirely. Mike Davis was to discuss it with the new Missouri Chapter; ideally, the bylaws and any other documentation would be ready for the May meeting so the Missouri Chapter could be recognized at that time. Mike was also to poll other chapters to see if they would hold such a meeting if it were held during the hearings. It was recommended that May be left open for the time being. It was decided that there would be a September meeting even though the national ABM would be held later the same month. January, April, September, November, and December would be evening meetings; the rest would be lunch meetings. Greg Ford would draw up a schedule for lunch meetings and would provide it to the secretary for inclusion with the minutes. It was noted that, although an effort was made to keep meetings within the I-435 loop, consideration had to be given to finding some place capable of accommodating a group that size. Nick Workman might host an evening meeting at the new community center if it he could arrange it at no charge. He was also to schedule a speaker for the February meeting. The ABM would be held in December at Argosy (if a larger room was available), Harrah s, or Ameristar. Alan Napoli moved the chapter be authorized to pay up to $500.00 to reserve a room at one of the casinos for the chapter s ABM; Eirene Oliphant seconded the motion; and it was unanimously approved. Nick Workman was to coordinate the event. Don Booth moved the schedule be approved with the changes noted; Chris Moretina seconded; and it was unanimously approved. The approved schedule is included as an attachment to the minutes. Mike Davis made the following committee appointments. He noted that broader representation from member jurisdictions was needed. Budget and Finance Sy Noorbakhsh Chair Bill Watson Chris Moretina Alan Napoli Nick Workman Bylaws Alan Napoli Chair Mike Davis Eirene Oliphant 4
Education Bill Watson Chair Steve Stalder Eirene Oliphant declined reappointment. Meetings and Programs Nick Workman Chair Greg Ford Community Relations Greg Ford Chair Code Change and Interpretation Ron Worley Chair Mike Davis noted that he would continue as a membership committee of one. Mike Davis opened discussion on the Missouri Chapter. He noted that there were questions as to how to fund the Missouri Chapter. Ideas considered included having each chapter donate a set amount or establishing a $5.00 per member surcharge that would be funneled to the Missouri Chapter. There were concerns that Kansas members would be upset at having to pay to fund the Missouri Chapter and that Missouri members would be upset at Kansas members not having to pay. Regarding the election of officers, it had been decided that there would be one member of the board from each local chapter and that officers would be elected from that board. In that manner, equal representation would be assured. Of eight local chapters eligible to participate, only one professional chapter in St. Louis had elected not to do so. Mike wanted to know what Metro Chapter members perceived to be the Missouri Chapter s mission. o Nick Workman indicated that additional training opportunities were important. Mike stated that ICC representative Bill Wall understood that the state chapter would have one day of free training provided annually. It was hoped that that training could be rotated among the participating jurisdictions. It had also been suggested that all the local chapters pool their free training days with the state chapter s day and do them all in one location in a single block of time to maximize everyone s training opportunity. o o Mike noted that State disaster assessment team coordination to respond to such things as last year s devastating tornadoes, which affected multiple jurisdictions, would be a worthy goal. State level coordination of adoption of the I-Codes was needed, although Mike noted that none of the other chapters appeared to be considering the IAPMO or NFPA 5000 codes as alternatives. 5
Ron Worley suggested that, if each chapter were to have one vote, an alternate be appointed for each chapter so a chapter whose primary representative was unable to attend could still vote. Geoff Bowen was recommended as Mike Davis alternate to represent the Metro Chapter. Nick Workman asked about bylaw adoption. Mike noted that a MABOI representative was drafting bylaws using the Ohio and Minnesota bylaws as guidelines. There was some discussion as to whether ICC s bylaws were required to be adopted by all ICC chapters. Mike said he had been advised that those were geared more toward the local chapters and that ICC would have to approve the Missouri Chapter s bylaws. Mike Davis suggested that the Metro Chapter start doing informal training and/or hosting discussion groups to which inspectors could be sent to discuss particular issues of common concern, i.e., garage doors, to facilitate more consistency in applying codes across jurisdictions. Eirene Oliphant noted that the Permit Technicians Chapter was doing that. Members are hereby requested to send the Metro Chapter secretary (melissa_brill@kcmo.org) topics of common interest that can be discussed in a two- to four-hour timeframe and to identify possible meeting sites that would accommodate a potentially sizable group. X. Announcements and Acknowledgements: Mike Davis thanked Nick Workman for hosting the meeting. He also thanked Alan Napoli for his service as immediate past president and welcomed the new board members. XI. Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m. XII. Attendance: In addition to officers and directors, these individuals were present: Alan Napoli, Tom Krahenbuhl, Syrus Kalantar, Chris Moretina, Steve Crull, Patrick McNamara, David Skaff, David Panek, Ron Worley, and Nick Workman. XIII. Next Meeting: The next meeting will be held at Ryan s Family Steakhouse, located at 10810 West 75 th Street, Shawnee, Kansas, on February 18, 2004 at 12:00 p.m. A representative of HalfPenny Sales, Inc., affiliated with Reflectix Corp, will present information on insulation. Directions: 1. Take I-35 South to the 75 th Street Exit (No. 227). 2. Turn right onto 75 th Street. 3. Go approximately.63 miles. The restaurant is on the north (right) side of the street. Respectfully Submitted, Melissa J. Brill Chapter Secretary 6