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Saint Andrew Presbyterian Church Meeting of the Session January 17, 2019 7:00 p.m. Minutes draft Attending elders: Tim Benson, Sarah Brakke, Jeff Charis-Carlson, Dave DeGroot, Kathy Duys, Ann Ford, Margaret Heidger, Bethany Lagani, Cecilia Norris, Beth Anne Pigge, William Sparks, Bruce Walker, Joe Whitney, Doug Wildes Excused elders: Mark Beerends, Myrna Farraj Guests: John Benson, Chris Donelson Pastors: Danie DeBeer present, Kyle Otterbein Danie opened with a brief meditation and prayer. From John 2, he read the story of the wedding in Cana. His mother asked Jesus for wine after the supply ran out. This was the first glimpse of his glory and his mission. We find God in unexpected ways, in the everyday things we do. At his mother s request, Jesus changed the water into the best wine, far beyond what was hoped for. 4. Consent Agenda: Add under consent agenda: for Team Guatemala, add fund raising event for trip. 4.1 MOS report Consent agenda moved Cecilia Norris, seconded Ann Ford. 4.2 Approval Session Minutes: Meeting December 20, 2018 and Special Meeting January 8, 2019 Motion to approve December 20, Margaret Heidger, seconded Beth Anne Pigge Motion to approve Jan 8, Margaret Heidger, seconded William Sparks 5.1 Clerk s Report Clerk Ann Ford reported communion attendance of 299 on January 6 th. Previous Januaries: Jan 7, 2018: 300 for communion. Attendance totals for January: December 2018, total 2519. Jan 2018 total = 1139: Jan 2017 total = 1071, Jan 2016 total = 947, Jan 2015 = 819. Our monthly attendance shows increases each year since the move from our 1300 Melrose location. 5.2 Correspondence 5.2.1 Rod Sullivan (a member and Johnson County supervisor) sent a letter to session, which is posted on the session page dated 190117. Danie read parts of the letter, describing great need for child care in our county and suggesting Saint Andrew as a new location. With the upcoming meeting, it will be best to wait for a planning team to address such a possibility after the Jan 26 th congregational analysis. Danie will respond to Rod before the January 26 th meeting. 5.3 Membership and Baptisms

Reporting the December 30 th baptism for Addison Ann Koeppel, daughter of Lori Ann Koeppel and Joshua Devere Herring Koeppel. This was approved on November 29 th. Tyler Brophe will be baptized on Jan 27 th. Keith and Ann Brophe, his parents, will be welcomed at that service by reaffirmation of faith. Motion Margaret Heidger moved to approve, Sarah Brakke seconded 6. Leadership Team Reports 6.1 Interim Senior Pastor Danie de Beer described the Congregational Diagnosis: January 26 th, all day planning, so we can understand who we are and where we are. It will be intense and fun. Saturday, January 26, 2019: 08:30 4:30 6.2 Associate Pastor s Report. Kyle Otterbein gave us updates on members who have been having health problems. Stephen Ministry is leading to put together care-giving efforts. 7. Rocket Docket Guatemala trivia night fund raising went very well. Marcia Murphy s presentation at ICPL was very successful. Women s retreat planning is coming along well for Feb 8-9. Margaret Heidger described events for Super Bowl Sunday and souper Sunday lunch after church February on 3rd. Jeff Charis-Carlson talked about the upcoming Mister Rogers celebration and the fact that the Presbytery is also using a Mister Rogers theme. Bruce Walker, for CRC, sent documents for the session page. CRC has requested that we host the outwear distribution on Oct. 26, 2019, and deacon Helen Bryce will work with that. Dave DeGroot said the sanctuary acoustics panels were unloaded, and platforms and ramps will be built for installation. The movement ministry team met with design team about colors for the MPR. Kitchen completion list is almost finished. Doug Wildes reported that the men s retreat is March 2nd, its subject is Daniel, with guest speaker Saleem Gubril of the Pittsburgh Project. For the adult education team Bethany reported they have started on Mission and holiday detox. Sarah Brakke reported that the first meetings of the nominating team are coming up and that suggestions are welcome to fill offices. There are 7-9 openings on session, 6-8 on deacons, plus treasurer and assistant treasurer. The second out-of-school day camp will be January 20 on MLK day, with 24 kids signed up to attend. Kyle Otterbein said that the upholstered cushions are now in the prayer room and they look great. 8. Team Reports for Action 8.1 Finance Team Report 8.1.1 Financial Report (Dashboard) John Benson distributed the finance team report including the 2019 proposed budget, which is also posted on the session page. The team assumes total income of $900,000, a number consistent with the amount pledged for 2019. St. Andrew s mission giving remains set at 14% of total budget. Elders raised questions about whether the budget allows for the session to decide against renewing various assistant music ministry positions for the 2019-20 program year. Such discussions, however, can take place half-way through the year, as required when the session voted to approve the new positions.

Elders also raised questions about basing 2019 budget numbers on the amount budgeted for 2018 rather than on the actual expenses for 2018, which were often lower. Session eventually determined that the staff should be praised, not penalized, for holding down expenses to such a low level in 2018. slashing the 2019 budget to the 2018 actual expenses would punish ministry directors for finding ways to save money rather than spend out their budgeted amounts. Motion: Accept the proposed budget. Moved by Joe Whitney, seconded by William Sparks. Motion Direct personnel team to report on assistant youth music directors by April meeting. Jeff Charis-Carlson moved, Dave DeGroot seconded. 8.1.2 Stewardship and Capital Campaign Chris Donelson attended to take questions. Tim Benson of the finance team has signed the contract to hire the consultant, as approved at the January 8 th meeting. He and Bruce Walker are working with that consultant. Some members have questioned the expenditure of $48,000 for the consultant. This will be addressed at the congregational meeting with a presentation from team members. Stewardship team is on hiatus, said Chris Donelson, but she wants to link stewardship and resources. We want to use stories about our activities, e.g. story on Nancy Barth. 8.2 Land Sales Team Jeff Charis-Carlson. Parking Master Plan See session page for Supporting Documents: (190117 St Andrew Parking Lot Exp Master Plan; 190117 ST ANDREW PARKING EXPANSION COST EST; and 190117 Land Sales Team Parking Analysis (Options A-F)) We have 185 parking stalls but we anticipate the need for more. We do not propose spending the money now but we need a master plan for the future. The team is asking session for permission to include these ideas in negotiating with Nepola and Heck, who own adjacent land to the north. Hall & Hall Engineering has come up with 6 long-term options for land that could be used for additional parking. The Land Sales Team will need session to identify which properties need to be protected from development and which properties could be used in negotiations with prospective buyers. MOTION: That session adopt the following Master Plan as detailed below. 1. Identify St. Andrew s core campus as the area between Gathering Place Lane and our property line to the west and up to 400 feet from our property line to the east. 2. Direct the Hospitality Team, the Building and Grounds Team and others to create a more intentional plan for addressing overflow needs such as off-site parking and shuttling during special events. 3. Authorize the Land Sales Team to reopen property negotiations with Nepola & Heck over the northern section of Outlot A and all areas up to 400 feet from our eastern property line as well as the upper pond. Include in those negotiations the possibility of obtaining some of Nepola & Heck s land for upper parking lot expansion (Option A).

4. Reserve land for parking options to the immediate southeast (Option B) and southwest (Option C) of the building, unless competing needs arise. 5. If negotiations break down with Nepola & Heck, move forward when needed with the smaller expansion (Option D) of existing parking lots to the north of the upper lot, to the west of the lower lot, and along the eastern edge of building. 6. Reserve land for parking options immediately to the east of the upper lot (Option E), but only for a lot up to 150 feet. A larger lot, by code, requires an emergency turnaround. 7. Reserve, if possible, the southern portion of Outlot A (Option F) for use as overflow parking and to protect the entry way view to St. Andrew s campus. Triangle lot: During the December meeting, session suggested that the Land Sales Team consider putting out a Request for Proposals (RFP) on the listing for the Triangle property. (The $1,000,000 listing for all the Triangle Property has expired, and the $250,000 listing on the plan for five separate lots will expire in April.) Because of the lengthy and laborious effort involved in crafting and evaluating an RFP, the team, instead, decided to meet informally with at least three new agents to talk about options for marketing the property. Bill Wittig agreed to pull his listing for the property early to allow for the team to interview possible new agents. The team will come back to session with a recommendation. 8.3 Personnel team Kathy Duys asked about wearing name tags on Sunday mornings, especially Danie DeBeer and Kyle Otterbein, plus others like Heather Woodin and Randy Hausler. Kyle said he is against having any special name tags made up for church staff. He said the studies and literature show that name tags work best when staff and leaders wear the same type of temporary tags as everyone else. 8.4 Buildings and Grounds team Doug Wildes talked about the walnut lumber from Melrose property s trees, which is now stored in the Heidger Garage. The unsold lumber will be donated in exchange for 1 small table and 1 quilt rack. Kyle Otterbein said we could sell it to our woodworkers and maybe use for future projects. It can be stored behind the organ. MOTION (tabled) Sell the wood in the Heidger Garage to the congregation for $10/board Ft. Boards will be priced and set up in the Popup Ministry Room for 1 week. 8.4.2 Building Use Fees Doug suggested fee changes for members and non-members, and sent them to us. MOTION (tabled until next meeting) to modify / update the Facility Usage Policy and fees to include For Profit organizations and new room usage costs. 8.4.3 Building Use Request: Building use request by (Church of the Nazarene) African Ministries every Sunday 1-3 p.m. A later hour would be better for our own activities and use. See the session page for the Supporting Document: Building Use Request African

Group. Many questions came up and further discussion is needed. Authorize the team to move forward with discussions on this. 8.5 Worship team Jeff Charis-Carlson MOTION To call a congregational meeting for 12:15 pm Sunday, February 10 to discuss the annual report, to vote on the pastoral terms of call and to update the congregation on church finances, including efforts to sell church property. MOTION The Worship Team asks Session to set two Ash Wednesday services on March 6: Noon and 5: 30 p.m. MOTION The Worship Team will serve Communion during the upcoming Women s Retreat and Men s Retreat. 9. New Business 9.1 The Guatemala Team asks permission to serve lunch following the February 10 th Congregational Meeting as a fund raiser. Motion to allow this fundraiser February 10th. 9.2 Commissioners to attend Presbytery meeting on February 9 th. Jeff, Doug, and William will attend as presbyters. 10. Old Business 10.1 Microphones update: Kyle is working on this with Tim Patrick. Will spend about $6000. for new wireless microphones, as previously approved. 10.2 Disposition of old pulpit furniture Name of builder to give old pulpit furniture to is not yet decided. Adjourned at 9:26 p.m. Closing Prayer. Respectfully submitted Ann Ford, Clerk of Session Rev. Dr. Daniel DeBeer, Interim Pastor 12. Next meeting: February 21, 2019