1 CITY OF FLORISSANT 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 Planning and Zoning Commission Unofficial Planning & Zoning Minutes February 4, 2019 Table of Contents Page Number Roll Call/Minutes Page 2 Approval of Minutes Adult Day Care Page 3 119 Flower Valley Shopping Center Adult Day Care Page 4 58 Grandview Shopping Center `Amendment to the Sign Code Page 5
P & Z Meeting 2/4/2019 Page 2 39 CITY OF FLORISSANT 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 Planning and Zoning Commission Unofficial Planning & Zoning Minutes February 4, 2019 The Planning and Zoning Commission met in Council Chambers at Florissant City Hall, 955 rue St. Francois on Monday, February 4, 2019 at 7:00 p.m. with Chairman Olds presiding. Roll Call On Roll Call the following members were present: Robert Nelke, Allen Minks, Steve Olds and Tim Lee. John Martine, David Smith and Lee Baranowski were excused. Also present was Anita Moore, Deputy City Clerk and Phil Lum, Building Commissioner. A quorum being present the Planning and Zoning Commission was in session for the transaction of business. Approval of Minutes Chairman Olds moved to approve the Meeting Minutes of January 7, 2019, seconded by Minks. Motion carried.
P & Z Meeting 2/4/2019 Page 3 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 New Business Item 1 Adult Day Care PZ020419-1 119 Flower Valley Shopping Center Recommend Approval - Ward 9 Request recommended approval for a Special Use Permit to allow for an Adult Day Care in an existing B-3 Zoning District. Mr. Lum gave a brief overview of the history of the site. The shopping center is currently occupied by several tenants and the Shop & Save is vacant. The application was accompanied by a site plan and a floor plan showing a gathering/activity room, two office spaces, kitchenette, vestibule and one toilet. No exterior changes or outside equipment are anticipated to be made or installed. No new signage is currently being proposed. Mr. Lum stated that if, the total number of occupants per the building code exceeded 15, a second restroom (one for each sex) and a drinking fountain would be required. The petitioner would also be required to abide by State regulations. Mr. Derek Kemp, contractor, was unaware of the second bathroom requirement. He stated that he would install the other bathroom but the plans that he had submitted this evening would have to be revised. He would submit the revised plans to Mr. Lum. Mr. Lum informed the petitioner that both bathrooms would have to be accessible. Mr. Kemp stated that he has already included a drinking fountain on the current plans. Chairman Olds moved to recommend approval for a Special Use Permit to allow for an Adult Day Care at 119 Flower Valley Shopping Center in an existing B-3 Zoning District with the following stipulations: 1. That accessible men and women s restrooms and drinking fountain to be installed. PROJECT COMPLETION Construction shall start within 60 days of the issuance of building permits and the structure shall be completed in accordance with the plans within 180 days of start of construction. The motion was seconded by Minks. On Roll Call the Commission voted: Nelke yes, Martine absent, Lee yes, Smith absent, Baranowski absent, Minks yes and Olds yes. Motion carried.
P & Z Meeting 2/4/2019 Page 4 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 Item 2 Adult Day Care PZ020419-2 58 Grandview Plaza Shopping Center Recommend Approval - Ward 7 Request recommended approval for a Special Use to allow for an Adult Day Care in an existing B-5 Zoning District. Mr. Lum gave a brief overview of the history of the site, informing the Commission that the site is within a B-5 Planned Commercial Zoning District. He listed the surrounding properties and their corresponding zoning districts. Mr. Lum stated that no outside equipment or exterior changes to the site are anticipated. The total number of occupants per the building code exceeds 15 and a second restroom (one for each sex) and a drinking fountain are required. Per Section III of the Staff Analysis, Mr. Lum stated that Permitted Uses are those in the B-3 District per Ord. No. 5239. Special Uses for this zoning district also includes Adult Day Cares. Nicole Williams and Patrice Hall, petitioners, appeared before the Commission. Ms. Williams stated that she will comply with the City s Building Code requirement of a second bathroom and a drinking fountain. She stated that the hours of operation would be 6 a.m. until 6 p.m. They will service disabled adults as well as the elderly. Ms. Williams currently operates an adult day care facility in the city and would like to open this one in Florissant, with plans to eventually relocate their entire business to Florissant. Chairman Olds moved to recommend approval for a Special Use Permit to allow for an Adult Day Care at 58 Grandview Plaza Shopping Center in an existing B-5 Zoning District with the following stipulations: 1. That accessible separate men and women s restrooms and drinking fountain to be installed. PROJECT COMPLETION Construction shall start within 60 days of the issuance of building permits and shall be completed in accordance with the plans within 180 days of start of construction. The motion was seconded by Minks. On Roll Call the Commission voted: Nelke yes, Martine absent, Lee yes, Smith absent, Baranowski absent, Minks yes and Olds yes. Motion carried.
P & Z Meeting 2/4/2019 Page 5 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 Old Business Item 1 Amendment to the Sign Code PZ061818-2 Postponed to 2/19/2019 Requests recommend approval to amend the sign code including regulations for digital signs. Chairman Olds stated that although they would be discussing the sign code this evening, he will be postponing this item until they receive input from the entire Commission. Mr. Minks stated that after reading the information submitted regarding digital signs in other municipalities, ten seconds seemed to be a common time frame. He was not in favor of relating the digital time frame to the speed limit. Mr. Minks also stated he would like to discuss the intensity of the sign in relation to the background light. Mr. Nelke suggested using the term foot candles in lieu of NITS in order to make enforcement and detection easier. He also suggested limiting the height of letters to not less than 5. Mr. Lum stated that enforcement on digital signs can be difficult. He added that the city attorney suggested that violators be sent directly to the circuit court instead of the Florissant Court which has a slower process. Chairman Olds stated that he would be in favor of limiting the size of a digital sign to 40 square feet. He also stated that if 10 second timing became a requirement, then transitioning and fading would be eliminated. Members had no problem with their elimination. All members present also agreed that digital signs should dim at night, regardless of zoning district, and that no digital signs be allowed in the Historic District. Mr. Mink stated that he would like to discuss extending the 10 second change when approaching an intersection. Mr. Lee stated that he would not be in favor of the time extension. He asked what would be considered an intersection: a stop sign or signalization. Discussion was had regarding signs that hang inside the windows of various businesses and whether they should be regulated. Chairman Olds enumerated the highlights of discussion: 10 second transition up to a 1 second black screen in between Dimming at night Using the term foot candles in lieu of NITS No change for speed limits
P & Z Meeting 2/4/2019 Page 6 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 No digital signs in Historic District Limiting the height of letters to not less than 5 inches Change timing when approaching intersection continue discussion Limiting the size of digital signs to 40 square feet continue discussion Factory settings must conform to Sign Code Chairman Olds asked Mr. Lum to present a working draft including the proposed changes, at the next meeting for continued discussion. Chairman Olds moved to postpone the request for Amendments to the Sign Code until 2/19/2019, seconded by Nelke. Motion carried. Mr. Lee moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Nelke. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:46 p.m. Anita Moore, Deputy City Clerk