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I UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA JERRY GREENBERG, individually, and IDAZ GREENBERG, individually, Plaintiffs, CASE NO. 97-3924 CIY-LENARD Magistrate Judge Turnoff vs. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SOCIETY, a District ofcolumbia corporation, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC ENTERPRISES, INC., a corporation, and MlNDSCAPE, INC., a California corporation, Defendants. ---'1 PLAINTIFF'S ANSWERS TO NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SOCIETY'S FIRST SET OF INTERROGATORIES Jerry Greenberg and Idaz Greenberg hereby answer National Geographic Society'S first set ofinterrogatories to plaintiffas follows: INTERROGATORIES GENERAL OBJECTION The plaintiffs object to all ofthe interrogatories to the extent that they seek information pertaining to any claims other than those set forth in Count I and Count II ofthe Amended Complaint. The parties have agreed that discovery as to the remaining counts is postponed until

the court rules on the pending motions for summary judgment, with the exception that the plaintiffs have sought court approval to engage in discovery pursuant to Rule 56 (f) before responding to the defendants' argument in their summary judgment motion as to Count V. The answers provided below, therefore, are relevant to Counts I and II only. I. Please provide the name, address, telephone number, place ofemployment and job title ofany person who has, claims to have or whom you believe may have knowledge or information pertaining to any fact alleged in the pleadings (as defined in Fed. R. Civ. P. 7(a) filed in this action, or any fact underlying the subject matter ofthis action. Answer: The plaintiffs object to the interrogatory to the extent that some information needed to formulate an answer may become known to the Greenbergs in the course of discovery that is presently in its early stages. Notwithstanding the objection, and without waiving it, the plaintiffs respond as follows on the basis of their current knowledge. Jerry Greenberg 6840 S. W. nnd Street Miami, Florida Idaz Greenberg 6840 S. W. nnd Street Miami, Florida Suzanne Dupre address unknown G.R.Caicott ChiefFinancial Officer Educational Insights, Inc. 16941 Keegan Avenue Carson, CA Suzanne Ross McDowell, Esq. 2

National Geographic Society 1145 17th Street, NW. Washington, D.C. Rock C. Wheeler Audio-Visual Coordinator National Geographic Society 1145 17th Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 2. Please state the specific nature and substance ofthe knowledge that you believe the person(s) identified in your response to Interrogatory No. I may have. Jerry Greenberg: all allegations in Counts I and II. Idaz Greenberg: Suzanne Dupre: Complaint. all allegations in Counts I and II. the assignment alleged in paragraph IS ofthe Amended G. R. Calcott: allegations in paragraphs 17, 19, and 20 ofthe Amended Complaint. Suzanne McDowell: all allegations in Counts I and II. Rock Wheeler: all allegations in Count II. 3. Please identify all images which have been published in National Geographic Magazine as to which the plaintiffs claim to have an interest, and provide the number ofthe copyright registration for each such image. All such images are identified, along with copyright registration numbers, in the attachments to the Affidavit ofjerry Greenberg which is Exhibit B to Plaintiffs' Memorandum in Response to Defendants' Motion to Dismiss Count II 3

and to Dismiss or for Summary Judgment on Counts III-V of Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint. 4. Please state each item ofdamages that you claim, whether as an affirmative claim or as a setoff, and include in your answer: the count or defense to which the item ofdamages relates; the category into which each item ofdamages falls, i.e. general damages, special or consequential damages (such as lost profits), interest, and any other relevant categories; the factual basis for each item ofdamages; and an explanation ofhow you computed each item ofdamages, including any mathematical formula used. The plaintiffs object to the interrogatory to the extent that some information needed to formulate an answer may become known to the Greenbergs in the course of discovery that is presently in its early stages. Notwithstanding the objection, and without waiving it, the plaintiffs respond as follows on the basis of their current knowledge. The Amended Complaint seeks statutory damages for Counts I and II, including damages for willful conduct, for the reason that actual damages in the circumstances are difficult ofproof As to Count I, the plaintiffs expect on the basis ofpresent knowledge to seek statutory damages of$35,000. The amount is inclusive ofdamages for willful infringement. The plaintiffs are unable to provide a computation or mathematical basis for the overall amount, or a computation or mathematical basis for separating damages for willful infringement from other damages. The infringement is ongoing. As to Count II, the plaintiffs expect on the basis ofpresent knowledge to seek statutory damages of$3,000. The amount is inclusive ofdamages for willful infringement. The plaintiffs are unable to provide a computation or mathematical basis for the overall amount, or a computation or mathematical basis for separating damages for willful infringement from other damages. The plaintiffs further object to the interrogatory to the extent that it seeks a "factual" basis for non-quantifiable damages, the subject matter ofwhich is more appropriately suited to deposition testimony. Notwithstanding the objection, and without waiving it, the plaintiffs contend that the damage amounts are reasonable 4

-------------------------, compensation that rewards their initiative in seeking enforcement oftheir copyrights, that will deter the defendants and others from similar infringements, and that redresses the unauthorized use oftheir copyrighted materials. The plaintiffs contend that the infringements were willful for a number ofreasons, including the Society's long experience with its own copyrights, its indifference to the infringements after being alerted to them, its longtime retention of materials owned by Mr. Greenberg without his consent, and its repeated use ofthe Greenbergs' materials for profit-making purposes and otherwise without their consent. 5. Please identify each document pertaining to each item of damages stated in your response to Interrogatory NO.6 above. The documents that have been otherwise provided to the defendants, or that will be produced to the defendants in response to their request for production ofdocuments, are responsive to the interrogatory. The plaintiffs object to having to separately "identify" each such document as burdensome and unnecessary. 6. Please identify each document (including pertinent insurance agreements) pertaining to any fact alleged in any pleading (as defined in Fed. R. Civ. P. 7(a)) filed in this action. The documents that have been otherwise provided to the defendants, or that will be produced to the defendants in response to their request for production ofdocuments, are responsive to the interrogatory. The plaintiffs object to having to separately "identify" each such document as burdensome and unnecessary. 5

STATE OF FLORIDA ) ) ss: COUNTY OF DADE ) 3er(~ BEFORE ME, the undersigned authority, this day personally appeared Green6eI5_, who, after being first duly sworn, deposes and says that he/she is the person who answered the foregoing interrogatories and that he/she duly acknowledged and swore before me that all ofsaid Interrogatories were answered truthfully and completely to the best ofhis/her knowledge and ability. Sworn to a6\d subscribed before me this _,_ day of rflctj-, 1998. My commission expires:,.il'ii, YOIJ.NDASILVEIM- -l~ Of ~;, MY COMMISSION # CC 727844 11 EXPIRES: March 25. 2002 BondedThru Notary Publlc Underwriters <\~ Personally Known OR Produced Identification V Type ofidentification Produced:-Dr', vc-r"" Lia n(j7. 6

STATE OF FLORIDA ) ) ss: COUNTY OF DADE ) BEFORE ME, the undersigned authority, this day personally appeared Xd'o.-e:- Q,leenbef(),who, after being first duly sworn, deposes and says that he/she is the person who answered the foregoing interrogatories and that he/she duly acknowledged and swore before me that all ofsaid Interrogatories were answered truthfully and completely to the best ofhis/her knowledge and ability. Sworn to and subscribed before me this I ":It day of f.{it'),1998. My commission expires: ~ It.".", YOLANDA SILVEIRA, ; : 1 EXPIRES: March 25, 2002 G) m.. /f' ~l MY COMMISSION i CC 727844 ~ BondlldThIll Notary Public UnderWritera Personally Known,,- OR Produced Identification Type ofidentification Produced: '-.Dt"\'( rr.s i:cf "6-'- V 7