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Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of VICTORIA K. HALL (SBN 00 LAW OFFICE OF VICTORIA K. HALL 0 N. Washington St. Suite 0 Rockville MD 0 Victoria@vkhall-law.com Telephone: 0-- Facsimile: 0-- Attorney for Plaintiff ROBERT JACOBSEN UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION ROBERT JACOBSEN, an individual, v. Plaintiff, MATTHEW KATZER, an individual, and KAMIND ASSOCIATES, INC., an Oregon corporation dba KAM Industries, Defendants. RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS EVIDENTIARY OBJECTIONS TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL DECLARATION OF ROBERT JACOBSEN, THE DECLARATION OF PAUL BENDER, AND THE DECLARATION OF ALEX SHEPHERD IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION Courtroom: Judge:, th Floor Hon. Jeffrey S. White Plaintiff Robert Jacobsen responds to Defendants Evidentiary Objections [Docket #] to the declarations [Docket #0, #, #] he filed with his Reply Memorandum [Docket #]. He addresses them in the order which Defendants presents their objections. As a preliminary matter, the Ninth Circuit has ruled that, when determining whether to issue a preliminary injunction, district courts may consider evidence that would be inadmissible at trial. Republic of the Philippines v. Marcos, F.d, (th Cir. ; United States Cellular Investment Co. of Los Angeles, Inc. v. AirTouch Cellular, No. CV -0 DT BQRX, --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of 00 WL 00, at * (C.D. Cal. Mar., 00. Aside from this, to the extent that foundation for any of the objected-to evidence is missing to make it admissible under the Federal Rules of Evidence, Plaintiff offers to provide that evidence at a later stage in this litigation. A. Declaration of Alex Shepherd Hearsay objections. Exhibit A: This exhibit is a statement describing an event made immediately after the declarant (Mr. Shepherd perceived the event. Thus, it is admissible under FRE 0(. It is also a statement related to a startling event made while Mr. Shepherd was under the excitement caused by the event. It is admissible under FRE 0(.. Exhibit B: This exhibit is a screenshot from Defendants computer program, via a computer. The hearsay rules apply only the statements made by a declarant, who is defined as a person makes a statement. FRE 0(b and (c. It does not apply to non-humans. United States v. Hamilton, F.d (th Cir. 0. To the extent that there are any statements from a human, those statements are from Defendants or their employees or agents, and thus are admissible under FRE 0(d((A through (D.. Paragraph : This paragraph describes what Mr. Shepherd did, not what he said, thus there is no statement that may constitute hearsay. Exhibit A, referred to in Paragraph, is discussed above. The response to Defendants objection to Exhibit A is incorporated by reference. Foundation objections Plaintiff believes that Mr. Shepherd s description of the steps he took do not constitute expert opinion (FRE 0/0 or require authentication (FRE 0. In the alternative, Defendants have implicitly made an admission that Mr. Shepherd is an expert witness. Mr. Shepherd is the developer who created the accused feature in the JMRI software. Declaration of Robert Jacobsen in Opposition to Motion to Strike Pursuant to CCP Sec.., at - [Docket #]. If Defendants accused this feature of infringing their patent, then they are logically admitted that the person who created this feature has the technical skills to create software capable of infringing the patent. Thus, to the extent that it is relevant to their objections, relevancy which as noted earlier --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of Plaintiff disputes, Defendants are admitting that Mr. Shepherd is an expert in software development, and thus is qualified to do the basic tasks of downloading files, opening *.zip files, running *.exe files, and opening readme.txt files.. Exhibit A: This is an email. The foundation for the email is described in paragraph in the section addressing Defendants hearsay objections.. Exhibit B: The screenshot is the product of running the tool which Mr. Shepherd downloaded, as described in his declaration. Mr. Shepherd is testifying to facts which are common knowledge downloading a file from the Internet, unzipping a file with a *.zip extension with the result that files in the *.zip file are produced on the computer, running a file with a *.exe extension, and opening and reading a file named readme.txt. Plaintiff asks the Court to take judicial notice per FRE (b( that performing these activities is common knowledge. Thus, they are facts, and not opinion evidence under FRE 0, and furthermore, do not require detailed explanations about the process or methods for foundation. In addition, these facts are not simulations of real events, which would require validation per FRE 0 that the simulation replicated the real event, but the real events themselves which Mr. Shepherd is testifying to. Thus, FRE 0 does not apply.. Paragraph : Mr. Shepherd describes what he did and result. Again, these are facts which require no expert testimony. They describe the real event at issue, not simulations of real events which would require validation per FRE 0 that the simulation replicated the real event, and thus FRE 0 is not applicable. B. Declaration of Paul Bender Foundation objections. Paragraph : Mr. Bender is testifying as to facts, not opinion, thus FRE 0 and 0 do not apply. Mr. Bender created some of the files, using the manufacturers books. He testified that he does not merely copy numbers or data when creating the files. Paragraph : Again, Mr. Bender is testifying as to facts, not opinion, thus FRE 0 and 0 do not apply. To the extent he is supplying any views, it is not an expert opinion but is an explanation of why he created the Decoder Definition Files the way he did. --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of C. Supplemental Declaration of Robert Jacobsen Hearsay objections. Exhibit B: Defendants have not identified what in this exhibit they consider to be hearsay, so Plaintiff addresses the word Download on the Download link on page of this exhibit: These are not statements offered for the truth of the matter asserted, but are operative facts. In the alternative, Plaintiff asks the Court to take judicial notice under FRE (b( that the word Download is commonly used to direct the user to move his mouse pointer on the word download on a computer screen and click the word so that a file may be transferred from another server via the Internet to the user s computer.. Exhibit C: Plaintiff incorporates by reference his response to Exhibit B of this section.. Exhibit D: This letter to Defendant Katzer records Plaintiff s thoughts on the matter and thus is admissible under FRE 0(. To the extent that 0( is not applicable, this is not offered for the truth of the matter asserted, but to show that Defendant had notice of Plaintiff s claim to the trademark DecoderPro.. Exhibit E: This is admissible for the same reason as Exhibit A of Alex Shepherd s Declaration is admissible. See Response to Hearsay Objection to Exhibit A in the section on Declaration of Alex Shepherd. As to the remaining statements (in the readme.txt file, they are admissible under FRE 0(d((A through (D.. Exhibit F: A statement must be made by a human to constitute hearsay. FRE 0(b and (c. These statements are made by Defendants computer program. To the extent that any human is responsible for these statements, it is Defendants and/or their employees and/or agents, and thus is admissible under FRE 0(d((A through (D.. Exhibit G: A statement must be made by a human to constitute hearsay. FRE 0(b and (c. These statements are made by, or as a result of, Defendants computer program. To the extent that any human is responsible for these statements, it is Defendants and/or their employees and/or agents, and thus is admissible under FRE 0(d((A through (D.. Exhibit J: This website is operated by a vendor who contracts with Defendants to sell their --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of products. Any statements on this website is a statement made by Defendants and/or their employees and/or their agents, and thus is admissible under FRE 0(d((A through (D.. Exhibit K: Plaintiff incorporates by reference his response in this section to Defendants objection to Exhibit J.. Exhibit M: This document is admissible under FRE 0(. Business records are admissible under FRE 0( if ( the writing is made or transmitted by a person with knowledge at or near the time of the incident recorded, and ( the record is kept in the course of regularly conducted business activity. United States v. Miller, F.d, (th Cir.. As Defendant Katzer is aware, given his familiarity with NMRA standards, this document is a standards document made with knowledge at or near the time the document was created or changes were made, and is kept in the course of regularly conducted business by an NMRA officer with the responsibility to update the document. Plaintiff is seeking a stipulation from Defendants that this document is admissible, or offers that he will obtain a declaration, or subpoena, an NMRA official to lay the foundation for this exhibit. As noted earlier, even without this foundation, the district court may accept this evidence for the purpose of deciding whether to issue a preliminary injunction. Republic of the Philippines v. Marcos, F.d, (th Cir.. Thus, this objection should be overruled. : Exhibit N: This document is admissible under FRE 0(. Business records are admissible under FRE 0( if ( the writing is made or transmitted by a person with knowledge at or near the time of the incident recorded, and ( the record is kept in the course of regularly conducted business activity. United States v. Miller, F.d, (th Cir.. As Defendant Katzer is aware, given his familiarity with the Lenz manufacturer, this document is a manufacturer s product document made with knowledge at or near the time the document was created or changes were made, and is kept in the course of regularly conducted business by Lenz employee with the responsibility to update the document. Plaintiff is seeking a stipulation from Defendants that this document is admissible, or offers that he will obtain a declaration, or subpoena, an appropriate Lenz employee to lay the foundation for this exhibit. As noted earlier, --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of even without this foundation, the district court may accept this evidence for the purpose of deciding whether to issue a preliminary injunction. Republic of the Philippines v. Marcos, F.d, (th Cir.. Thus, this objection should be overruled.. Exhibit O: This document is admissible under FRE 0(. Business records are admissible under FRE 0( if ( the writing is made or transmitted by a person with knowledge at or near the time of the incident recorded, and ( the record is kept in the course of regularly conducted business activity. United States v. Miller, F.d, (th Cir.. As Defendant Katzer is aware, given his familiarity with Digitrax, this document is a manufacturer s product document made with knowledge at or near the time the document was created or changes were made, and is kept in the course of regularly conducted business by a Digitrax employee with the responsibility to update the document. Plaintiff is seeking a stipulation from Defendants that this document is admissible, or offers that he will obtain a declaration, or subpoena, an appropriate Digitrax employee to lay the foundation for this exhibit. As noted earlier, even without this foundation, the district court may accept this evidence for the purpose of deciding whether to issue a preliminary injunction. Republic of the Philippines v. Marcos, F.d, (th Cir.. Thus, this objection should be overruled.. Paragraph : The statement which Alex Shepherd made to Mr. Jacobsen: See Response to Hearsay Objection to Exhibit A in the section on Declaration of Alex Shepherd. As to the remaining statements (in the readme.txt file, they are admissible under FRE 0(d((A through (D. : Paragraph : There are no statements in this paragraph that are made for the truth of the matter asserted. To the extent that to credit JMRI may constitute a statement, it is an operative fact.. Paragraph : There are no statements in this paragraph that are made for the truth of the matter asserted. To the extent that He gives JMRI credit. may constitute a statement, it is an operative fact. Foundation objections Plaintiff has offered his expert qualifications on two occasions the anti-slapp declaration and --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of his declaration accompanying his Motion for Preliminary Injunction. Plaintiff has a Bachelor s degree in electrical engineering and computer science from MIT and doctorate in experimental high energy physics from Stanford. Declaration of Robert Jacobsen in Opposition to Motion to Strike Pursuant to CCP Sec.., at - [Docket #]. He created computer controls in the process control industry after graduation from MIT and has led groups of researchers to build complex software systems. Id. He teaches physics at UC Berkeley with his Nobel Prize-winning peers, and conducts advanced research in particle physics at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Id. at -. He published a paper on using object-oriented software engineering in connection with his work at the BaBar experiment, a major experimental high energy physics collaboration at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. Id. at,. Plaintiff has been involved in model railroading for the last years, and played a major role in creating the JMRI software. Id. at -; Declaration of Robert Jacobsen in Support of Motion for Preliminary Injunction, at - [Docket #]. He has also tested other model railroad control systems manufacturer s products. E.g., Declaration of Robert Jacobsen in Opposition to Motion to Strike Pursuant to CCP Sec.., at [Docket #]. As Defendant Katzer knows, Plaintiff was chair of the NMRA s Digital Command Control Working Group, which works to create technical standards for model railroad manufacturers. See Declaration of Robert Jacobsen in Support of Motion for Preliminary Injunction, Ex. L (Defendant Katzer offering congratulations and advice to Plaintiff after Plaintiff s announcement that he is head of the DCC Working Group [Docket #]. Plaintiff is qualified to test Defendants software. As to the FRE 0 objection, Plaintiff is not offering testimony about a simulation of the real event, which would require validation per FRE 0 that the simulation replicated the real event, but testimony as to the real event itself the installation and use of the software. Thus, FRE 0 is not applicable. To the extent that a description of the process or method used is required, Plaintiff offers that the basic steps of installing the software (that is, inserting the Decoder Commander CD in the computer s CD drive, clicking the install button that Decoder Commander displays on the computer screen, hitting the Enter button several times, and clicking to accept the --

Case :0-cv-00-JSW Document Filed /0/0 Page of license are common knowledge and do not need to be detailed in his declaration. As for his testimony that the infringing files were still present, Plaintiff offers that no highly technical process or method is required only locating the files in Defendants product s file folders. See Bauman v. DaimlerChrysler AG, No. C-0-00 RMW, 0 WL, at * (N.D. Cal. Nov., 0 (discussing elastic standards of the rule sufficient to support a finding that the matter in question is what proponent claims. Thus, this objection should be overruled.. Paragraph : Plaintiff incorporates by reference the discussion above.. Paragraph : Plaintiff incorporates by reference the discussion at the beginning of this section.. Paragraph : Plaintiff incorporates by reference the discussion at the beginning of this section.. Exhibit F: Plaintiff incorporates by reference the discussion at the beginning of this section.. Exhibit G: Plaintiff incorporates by reference the discussion at the beginning of this section. Commentary objection. Paragraph : This paragraph is relevant under FRE 0 because it explains one reason why Plaintiff continues to press his Motion for Preliminary Injunction despite Defendants assertions that their infringing conduct has come to a halt Plaintiff tested Defendants software, searched Defendants website, and looked to Defendants vendors websites, and found that Defendant Katzer hadn t done what he said he did in his declaration. Plaintiff discusses another reason which is a significant omission in Katzer s testimony no statements regarding the effect of Katzer s changes on registered copies of Decoder Commander. Respectfully submitted, DATED: December, 0 By /s/ Victoria K. Hall, Esq. (SBN 00 LAW OFFICE OF VICTORIA K. HALL 0 N. Washington St. Suite 0 Rockville MD 0 Telephone: 0-- Facsimile: 0-- ATTORNEY FOR PLAINTIFF --