IEEE Surge Protective Devices Main Committee Meeting Minutes Fall Meeting CNN Center Atlanta GA, October 6, 2006

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1 IEEE Surge Protective Devices Main Committee Meeting Minutes Fall Meeting CNN Center Atlanta GA, October 6, ) Call to order Chairman Doug Dorr called to order, members introduced themselves. There were 20 members and 2 guests in attendance. 2) Approval of agenda Agenda was displayed on the overhead projector and approved with several items added under new business as indicated with an *. 3) Approval of minutes of last meeting The Spring 2006 Meeting Minutes from Clearwater Florida were discussed and approved. 4) Subcommittee reports (3.1) Administrative & Standards D. Dorr Doug Dorr reported that A&S met for 3 hours on October 4, 2006 and will need a similar time slot for the Spring 2006 meeting. Draft minutes for A&S will be posted on the on-line community website under the 3.1 folder and once approved will be amended to these minutes as an attachment. Financial Report (General) K. Brown The IEEE Balance is approximately $XXX which was increased from a previous balance of $YYY prior to the Spring Meeting. PES TC Activities F. Waterer 6) Old business Four papers were presented at the PES National Conference in Montreal on Tuesday June 19, The presenters were Doug Dorr, Ken Brown and Dalibor Klabor. The papers were well received by the attendees and there were approximately people in the room. Several questions were asked and responded to by the presenters. C62 is being reconstituted to adopt certain IEC standards as US National Standards. Jodi Haasz provided an overview of the PAR process during the Spring Meeting 7) New Business

2 Page 2 Richard Odenberg will hold an awards presentation as the Spring 2007 luncheon to be held on Wednesday May 9, ) SPDC Future Meeting Locations and Schedule The next meeting (Spring Meeting 2007) will be held at the Sheraton Sand Key in Clearwater, Florida from May 7-May 10, ) Adjournment Attachments 1. LV subcommittee minutes 2. HV subcommittee mtg minutes 3. A&S mtg minutes Liaison rep attachments A&S Subcommittee Meeting Minutes October 4, Call To Order a. The meeting was called to order by Doug Dorr and each member introduced their name and affiliation. There were 10 members and 2 guests from the IEEE staff in attendance. 2. IEEE disclaimers a. A&S does not need to review the patent slides at the A&S meeting according to the IEEE Program Manager. 3. Approval of Agenda a. The agenda was reviewed and accepted with no additions. 4. Approval of minutes of last meeting a. Motion to accept the previous minutes were reviewed and accepted. b. Motion to accept the minutes from the teleconference was accepted. 5. Committee Reports a. Awards Report-Richard Odenberg 6. Web Manager s Report Mick Maytum a. The web managers report was added to this report: b. Some highlights listed below: Created highly secure 10/350 Forum Folder. Added top views box on What s New page Added two moderators List of October Approved PARS posted on SPD Forum in IEEE-SA folder. 7. Bibliography- Carl Lindquist a. A copy Bibliography sub-committee report was added to this report 8. High Voltage Sub-Committee Report - Steve Hensley a. A copy High Voltage Sub-Committee Report was added to this report. 9. Low Voltage Sub-Committee Report Ray Hill a. A copy of the Low Voltage Sub-Committee Report will be added to this report 10. Secretaries Report

3 Page 3 a. Awards Speaker Joe DeGregoria of Underwriters Laboratory b. Financial Update - $ in the budget c. Future Meeting Dates May 7-10 at the Sheraton Sand Key, Clearwater 11. IEC Activities Joe Koepfinger a. Joe provided on the IEC C62 activities to the IEEE-SPDC in the form of a power point presentation. The report includes activities from SC37A, SC37B, TC81 and SB1. The report will be posted with the IEEE Main Committee minutes. 12. Other Coordination Activities and Liaison Reports a. The high voltage testing techniques committee Standard 4 is releasing a report. 13. Standards Coordinator Reports a. Jim Wilson HV i. A copy of the HV Coordinator report was added to this report b. Bill Goldbach LV i. A copy of the LV Coordinator report was be added to this report. 14. New Business a. The luncheon at the Spring meeting will be an Awards Luncheon Meeting Adjourned Subcommittee 3.7 Electronic Tools for Documentation and Collaboration IEEE PES SPDC Fall 2006 Meeting Report to A&S 1 New IEEE-SA Grouper Web Site Phase 1 of re-structured site designed to appeal to SPD Stakeholders went live mid-april How to... details of creating IEEE Web Account, joining Online Community, STDS-SPD Listserv, IEEE-SA and MyballotTM need adding. Registered with Google, Yahoo! and Ultraseek. Up to 1 May 294 visitors DONE Phase 2 made fully compliant to IEEE PES Web site recommendations by adding Meeting summaries or reports (2003/2004/Spring 2005) Awards, special notices, etc Expanded Terms glossary into letter Group Pages Added hot links to SPD Forum Up to 1 October 2006 has had 1600 visitors, 10,000 page views DONE Phase 3 (Spring 2007) add members private area, increase body width and have scrolling window 2 STDS-SPD Broadcast Listserv SPDC News 176 subscribers 3 IEEE SPD Forum (Online Community) Created highly secure 10/350 Forum Folder. Added top views box on What s New page Added two moderators List of October Approved PARS posted on SPD Forum in IEEE-SA folder. 4 Electronic Documentation

4 Page 4 Experiment with IEEE Word Template in 2007 Office and passed on results to IEEE-SA Problems found with Unicode fonts certain graphics conversions - being worked on. IEEE SPDC Subcommittee 3.2 Bibliography, Definitions and Symbols (Unofficial) Meeting on 10/04/06 in Atlanta, GA The Bibliography, Definitions and Symbols Subcommittee met on 10/04/06 at the Omni Hotel at CNN Towers, Atlanta, GA for approximately 3 hours. Those in attendance were asked to introduce themselves. They included: Members Interested Parties Bill Goldbach Rick Ellenberger Leonard Drewes Carl Lindquist Chairman Michael Maytum Frank Waterer Andrea Turner Haa Francois Martzloff Darrell Wilson Don Turner Members Absent Guests David Jackson Kim Breitfelder, IEEE, Mgr., Standards Jim Wilson Editing and Production Joe Koepfinger Susan Tatiner, IEEE, Associate Managing Director Opening: The meeting was opened at approximately 08:10 AM with a brief overview of topics to be discussed. We did have a quorum with 9 of 12 members present. An agenda for this meeting had been posted on the Community Web Site on 08/02/06. The Agenda was reviewed and accepted with one change by Mick Maytum who requested the status of the IEEE Dictionary. This addition will be taken up under New Business. Review and Disposition of Prior Meeting Minutes: Attendees had been requested to bring the Agenda for this meeting and Unofficial Meeting Minutes from the last meeting as posted on the SPDC Community Web Site on 05/30/06. The Unofficial Minutes for the prior SC 3.2 meeting 05/03/06 were projected and attendees who had not downloaded the documents were provided an opportunity to review them. The attendees were requested to review the minutes as we used the Action Items to guide us through the meeting. After a motion was made and seconded the minutes were accepted unanimously without change. Bibliography: We reviewed Action Item #1 regarding the bibliography disclaimer. An alternate

5 Page 5 disclaimer for inclusion in all bibliography documents was presented and accepted, pending formal approval from IEEE Headquarters. Francois Martzloff provided a table showing several rows of bibliography types and associated information covering needed information. He provided a brief presentation that resulted in creation of several action items and a new Task Force #3. Open Action Items related to Bibliography issues and dispositions were discussed next. These included Action Items 1, 2, 3 and 4 from the 05/04/05 Meeting Minutes. Action Item # Action Item / (Responsible Individual) / Status #1) At the October 04, 2006 meeting, a new disclaimer was recommended to replace the original disclaimers that had been approved by IEEE Headquarters several years ago, but never implemented due to constraints of the Web Site. The new disclaimer: NOTE: This paper, in the following pages, is posted here with permission of the IEEE. Internal or personal use of this material is permitted. However, permission to reprint/republish this material for advertising or promotional purposes or for creating new collective works for resale or redistribution must be obtained from the IEEE by sending a blank message to pubspermissions@ ieee.org. By choosing to view this document, you agree to all provisions of the copyright laws protecting it. A motion was made, seconded and carried unanimously that this new disclaimer will be forwarded by from Carl Lindquist to Kim Breitfelder, IEEE, Piscataway, NJ, for review and approval. (C. Lindquist) #2 Francois Martzloff will continue to review archive papers and posting will be done on the Grouper Web Site with the assistance of Mick Maytum. Because of the great amount of work required to complete this task, it was recommended that we establish a new Task Force #3 that will include members that can assist Francois with this effort. This work is primarily carried out between meetings. A motion was 3 made, seconded and passed unanimously to establish this new Task Force #3 and it was agreed that Francois Martzloff will oversee the efforts in this task force. Two SC 3.2 members volunteered during the meeting to participate in this Task Force Mick Maytum and Darrel Wilson. Task Force #3 may become a Working Group due to the ongoing need for these services. A bibliography table showing all types of papers and some information on responsibilities was presented by Francois for the subcommittee s review and comment. The table was reviewed item by item and blanks were filled with the appropriate information. It was agreed that this table would be used as the basis for the new Task Force. The creation

6 Page 6 of the new Task Force was reported to the 3.1 A&S Committee and the 3.0 Main Committee with a request for participation by both the LV and HV Subcommittees and Working Groups. SPD Library and Bibliography (Hosted by Grouper) FOLDER CONTENTS ON-LINE ACCESS COMPILED BY Public domain papers Unlimited FDM General SPD Library (LV) + HV 3.4 Copyrighted papers SPD Members only FDM (LV) + HV 3.4 Selected Seminal papers Unlimited SPD Committee SPD Bibliography One-liners or abstract Unlimited All WGs >>> FDM Just citation Unlimited 3.2 TASK FORCE In-text citations format: (Author,_Date) Title, Publisher, pp (?) NOT [Bxx] Bibliography format: Lead author, co-authors, Title, Publisher, Date, pp Some of the papers we are reviewing will be for the limited use of SPDC. This will necessitate use of some type of restriction to access on the Grouper Web Site. Mick Maytum noted that he will be using new software beginning next Spring that will permit establishing such restricted access. Until that time, we will continue to work with papers that need no protection from the general public. It was noted by Mick that for the time being, all posting of documents will be 4 carried out by the Web Master. Kim Breitfelder, IEEE, explained that while it is strongly recommended that bibliographies be included in each standard, it is not absolutely required by IEEE. It was also pointed out that most documents and standards published by the IEEE today are provided in PDF format and downloaded from their Web Site rather than delivered as paper copies. #3 Review Access Database to enhance Bibliography search capability relative to searching with Acrobat 5 or later. (F. Martzloff) While Francois Martzloff will continue with these efforts, this work will likely become part of the Task Force #3 responsibilities. #4 Await response from IEEE Headquarters regarding bibliography posting, paper posting and possible links between the Grouper site and IEEE Community Web Site. We will work with the new SC 3.7 Mick Maytum as we approach the decisions provided by IEEE. (Mick Maytum / Carl Lindquist / Francois Martzloff). This Action Item was completed. However, we will be forwarding a new Disclaimer proposal to IEEE per Action Item 1, above. When we receive a reply regarding the new

7 Page 7 Disclaimer from IEEE, we will review this issue again. 5 Definitions: Open Action Items related to Dictionary issues and dispositions were discussed next. These included Action Items 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 from the 05/04/05 Meeting Minutes. Action Item # Action Item / (Responsible Individual) / Status #5 Await final balloting of C62.42 to move Interim Definitions to next revision of the IEEE SPDC Dictionary. (C. Lindquist) With the successful balloting of C62.42, this Action Item has been completed. Definitions held inn the Interim Definitions folder were added to the IEEE-SPDC Dictionary. #6 Multiservice surge-protective device as a new definition was placed on hold pending a formal submittal from WG It is understood that this term is still being worked on. (C. Lindquist / Tony Surtees) This is an ongoing issue. The term was modified at the subsequent WG meeting and we will wait for formal submittal to SC 3.2. #7 Continue to review C62 standards for definitions that are not presently included in any of the dictionaries. (C. Lindquist) This is an ongoing effort. #8 Continue to review TC-37 definitions for compliance with terms presently in the IEEE-SPDC Dictionary. (M. Maytum) This is an ongoing effort. #9 Add C62.35 Definitions to SPDC Dictionary after successful ballot by WG (C. Lindquist) These definitions have been posted on the Community Web 6 Site under Interim Definitions. They will be added to the SPDC Dictionary after successful balloting of C This had still not been completed as of the Fall SPDC meeting. #10 Get copy of IEC / PAS Surge Arresters Part 7 Glossary of terms and definitions from IEC publications , , , , , , , , , and (J. Koepfinger) Joe Koepfinger has not attended meetings in 2005 nor #11 The SPDC Dictionary of Terms was reviewed at this meeting. The latest approved new terms had been approved at the last meeting and incorporated in this

8 Page 8 document dated 10/04/06. The motion was made and seconded to accept this document. This motion passed unanimously. #12 The Flow Diagram for submitting new terms to SC 3.2 and procedures to be followed was presented to the members of the subcommittee for reaffirmation. A motion was made, seconded and passed unanimously to reaffirm. Symbols Library: Work on the Symbols Library graphical format and software selection began with the Fall, 2005 meeting where the Subcommittee officially accepted responsibility for SPDC Symbols. At that meeting, we officially agreed upon use of Microsoft Visio as the component symbol and schematic generating program. The latest issue of this software is Visio Open Action Items related to the Symbols Library issues and dispositions were discussed next. These included Action Items 13, 14 and 15 from the 05/04/05 Meeting Minutes. Action Item # Action Item / Status #13 Get copy of IEC Symbols document(s) for review of compatibility with IEEE Std (C. Lindquist / M. Maytum) Complete. Symbols library IEC was provided by Mick 7 Maytum. #14 A Task Force consisting of M. Maytum, F. Waterer, A. Offner, D. Wilson and L. Drewes will review potential content for a tentative document scope and establish direction for the proposed new Symbols Library for SPDC. This information will be provided for the Fall, 2004 SC 3.2 meeting. (M. Maytum, F. Waterer, A. Offner, D. Wilson and L. Drewes) Leonard Drewes provided a report and brief presentation on work to date using Visio and generating necessary initial component schematic symbols. It was agreed that Leonard will attempt to generated the schematics for C62.33, presently being updated in WG This will be treated as a pilot program to determine if the technology will work and can be applied easily. If this pilot program is successful, the Task Force will provide a report to SC 3.2 and we will consider expanding the pilot to other Working Groups. #15 Follow disposition of some newly proposed SPD Graphical Symbols introduced by the IEC. (J. Koepfinger) This is an ongoing effort. Joe Koepfinger was not present at the 2005 or 2006 meetings to report on any related issues.

9 Page 9 Old Business: None New Business: 1) Mick Maytum requested time to provide a brief update on a new IEC Definitions document that has been worked on at the TC-1 meeting in Berlin, Germany last week. He spent some time bringing us up to date with this new document and possible applications we can keep in mind for the future. Summary of Action Items for Spring, 2007 Meeting: (Responsible Member) 1) It was agreed at the Fall, 2006 meeting that a letter requesting approval of a new disclaimer would be generated and forwarded to Kim Breitfelder, IEEE, Piscataway, NJ, for review and approval. A letter was generated and forwarded to Kim Breitfelder on 10/09/06. (C. Lindquist) 2) Continue to look into sources of IEEE SPDC Archive papers and potential methods for posting. Task Force #3 was created to assist in this effort. (Andi Haa / Francois Martzloff) 3) Continue to review Access Database to enhance Bibliography search capability relative to searching with Acrobat 5 or later. Task Force #3 was created to assist in this effort. (F. Martzloff) 4) Multiservice surge-protective device as a new definition was placed on hold pending a formal submittal from WG It is understood that this term has been renamed and will be submitted to SC 3.2 for review prior to completion of the standard. (C. Lindquist / Tony Surtees) 7) Continue to review C62 standards for definitions that are not presently included in any of the dictionaries. (C. Lindquist) 8) Continue to review TC-37 definitions for compliance with terms presently in the IEEE-SPDC Dictionary. (M. Maytum) 9) Await final balloting of C62.35 to move Interim Definitions to next revision of IEEE SPDC Dictionary. (C. Lindquist) 10) Get copy of IEC / PAS Surge Arresters Part 7 Glossary of terms and definitions from IEC publications , , , , , , , , , and (J. Koepfinger) 11) Review SPDC Dictionary and Definitions Flow Chart immediately for corrections and updates. The updated documents will be sent to all members of SC 3.2 for review and comment. When consensus has been achieved, the new documents will be posted. This review task will be added to the agenda to be performed at every meeting in the future. (C. Lindquist) 12) A copy of IEC Symbols document was obtained from Mick Maytum. Based on a quick review of this document, it will not be as useful as IEEE Std. 315 in establishing our minimal set of symbols for use in IEEE-SPDC documents. (C. Lindquist / M. Maytum / L. Drewes) 13) A Task Force consisting of M. Maytum, F. Waterer, A. Offner, D. Wilson and L. Drewes will continue to review potential content for a tentative document scope and establish direction for the proposed new Symbols

10 Page 10 Library for SPDC using Visio. L. Drewes has agreed to create a basic set of symbols using Visio and he will use these elements to generate actual Minutes of Subcommittee 3.6 Low Voltage Surge Protective Devices Omni Hotel CNN Center, Atlanta, GA Thursday, October 5, 2006 Ray Hill, Chair 1. Introduction of Guests and Members 2. Agenda Review: Accepted 3. Spring 2006 Minutes: Accepted 4. Working Group Reports plus Time and Equipment Requirements for Next Meeting (any actions or discussions were deferred to New Business) WG Low Voltage Gap Type Surge Protective Device Components Chair: Wolfgang Oertel Did not meet at this time. WG Low Voltage Solid State Surge Protective Device Components Chair: Michael J (Mick) Maytum Working Group Low Voltage Solid State Surge Protective Device Components Working Group Summary Report for IEEE PES SPDC Fall 2006 SC 3.6 Meeting Chair: Michael J (Mick) Maytum m.j.maytum@ieee.org Members: 6 Interested Parties: 4 Venue: Pine Room, Omni at the CNN Center Atlanta, GA Met for: 4 hours, Monday, 2 October 2006 All the standard IEEE and procedural bits were done. No contributions received. Gave status of: PAR Extension for PC62.35 PAR Extension for PC62.33 PAR for PC revision Submission of PAR 1710 Performance values for self-restoring current limiters Submission of PAR 1711 Test Methods for self-restoring current limiters (both support WG standards) PC62.35 in Ballot The rest of the time was spent consolidating PC Fragments Next time two 4-hour sessions, projectors, screen, Wi-Fi. No conflict with WG 3.6.1/3/7/10 SC 3.0/1/2/6/7

11 Page 11 WG Low Voltage Surge Protective Device Components Application Guide Chair: Tom Conrad (stepping down as Chair due to job change) Tom Hartman will replace him as Chair. 1) October 2, :00 a.m. -12:00 p.m. Atlanta, GA. 2) Minutes taken by Don Turner, 3) Call to Order Chairman Conrad opened the meeting at 8:00 a.m. Members present: 5 Interested Parties: 0 Guests: 0 (Attendance list attached. There were insufficient members present for a quorum. It was noted that because of a job change, Chrys Chrysanthou will not be attending IEEE meetings and should be removed from the membership list.) 4) Reading of IEEE disclaimer patent advice was provided and the two slides were shown; an opportunity was provided for WG members to identify or disclose patents that the WG member believes may be essential for the use of that standard; No patents or patent applications were identified. The Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings slide was reviewed. 5) Review of Agenda The Agenda was reviewed. It was moved and seconded to approve agenda as presented. 6) Review and Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes The spring 2006 Meeting Minutes were reviewed, and approved as written, subject to electronic approval by the Working Group members since we did not have a quorum. The Chairman will the minutes for approval. 7) Old Business Status update PC62.42 The Guide has been published. Working Group members have received PDF file copies from IEEE. Figure files for C62.42 were obtained by Chairman Conrad and will be saved on the Working Group web page for future revision work. PAR for next revision of C62.42 The PAR has been submitted by Bill Goldbach to NESCOM. The 9/15/2006 approval letter from NESCOM was reviewed. The PAR end date is 12/31/2010. It was noted that the scope of the submitted PAR was changed after submittal; those present did not disagree with the changes. 8) New Business Discussed items to be included in revision of C62.42 Chairman Conrad displayed a list of items to be considered for the next revision of C Items on the list were discussed. The members present considered splitting the applications section into 2 groupings: AC, and Data/Communications. Need for Working Group Officers o Chairman Conrad is currently not employed and therefore doesn t have financial backing to continue SPD travel and participation. It has also

12 Page 12 9) Action Items been difficult to find someone to be secretary, technical editor, etc.. Direction is needed from the 3.6 subcommittee in order for this Working Group to continue its work. Action Item Assigned To Due Date minutes of this meeting to members for Tom Conrad review and approval Request guidance / direction for continued organization and work from the 3.6 subcommittee. Tom Conrad Oct. 4, 06 10) Next Meeting Clearwater, FL May, )Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at noon. WG Surge Characterization on Low Voltage Circuits Chair: Bill Goldbach 30 Attendees, 12 members, 14 IP s, and 4 guests The meeting was called to order at 8:00 AM by the SC 3.6 Chair, Ray Hill. Comments were made concerning past-chair, James Funke, having served SPDC for many years. He is now working for another company and will no longer be attending SPDC meetings. Ray introduced the new Chair, Bill Goldbach. The Reality Check Initiative was presented at the PES summer power meeting. It should be in the Transactions and included on the OC in the 10/350 Forum folder. Action Item: The Vice-chair will find out if extracting and/or downloading portions of the papers in the folder is possible. PARs for the Trilogy have been approved. The Chair indicated the desire to form a TF for each of the documents. A Motion was made to form TFs with Leaders for each document; seconded and approved. o Dot 1: open to add new papers and to synchronize with Dot 2. Leader vols/noms: Tom Phipps (voted and approved) o Dot 2: open for updates as needed. Leader vols/noms: George Mayle (voted and approved) o Dot 45: open only for synchronization with Dot 2, however, needs PAR revision to include the let it rip controversy. Leader vols/noms: Joe DeGregoria (voted and approved), Mike Hopkins volunteered to be on the Task Force. o Action Item: The Vice-Chair will put the Trilogy documents on the OC for WG only use.

13 Page 13 Scenario II TF report (Tony Surtees, Chair) Francois Martzloff presented his efforts at a literature search for representative lightning data. The Power Point presentation is on the OC. Switching Surges TF Bryan Cole (Chair) not present; no report. Current and Voltage Driven Waveforms Andi Haa (Chair) o Focus on response of the SPD to current, voltage, or the combination wave. The TF deliverable will be findings and a proposed text for insertion into the Trilogy. The WG agreed upon using the terms voltage driven, current driven, and preset generator. Exposure Level Ron Hotchkiss (Chair) no feedback so far. The TF will come up with text for next meeting for discussion. Discussion concerning multiple categories within Categories A, B, and C ensued. A straw pole was taken on expanding the categories: 17 for keeping only four categories, 0 for expanding to multiple categories (i.e. A1, A2, A3, B1, B2, etc.), 6 abstentions. Endurance/Repetitive Testing TF Bill Goldbach (Chair) - waiting on LS-1. There was discussion as to whether or not this topic was within the scope of this WG. It was agreed that this does fall within the scope Dot 45 from a testing method point of view. How to Handle References and Citations TF Darrell Wilson (Chair) no conclusion at this point. Committee is in discussions with Carl Lindquist (SC 3.2 Chair). Action Item The Chair will put the three new PARs on the OC. A PAR for Dot 48 was discussed. The Chair will submit a new PAR in the Spring of 2008 and will probably just go for reaffirmation. The WG consensus at this time is to go for reaffirmation. The Chair noted that a standard has a five year life. New business: The question of having meeting minutes and agenda earlier came up and it was agreed that we should have them out earlier; 30 day target. Action Item: The Vice-Chair/Sec. will send out a roster with membership and IPs for the new TF Leaders and WG members to use for volunteering. Adjourn: 11:32 AM

14 Page 14 WG Low Voltage AC Power Circuit Protective Devices Chair: Ron Hotchkiss Meeting Date: 10/04/2006 Time: 8-12 am Location: Atlanta Omni Hotel at the CNN Centre, Maple Room ATTENDANCE: Members: 14 Interested Parties: 7 Guests: 1 Minutes: 1. Chair opened meeting at 8:05am 2. Introductions, Circulation of Attendance Sheet and Patent Requirements Review 3. Approval of Agenda: Approved unanimously 4. Approval of Minutes: Approved unanimously Comments: Item 18 pre-ballot clarification of intent provided 5. C62.72 recirculation Doug not present at the moment. Ballot has closed. Passed 92% approved 1-2 negative balloters with comments. Doug reviewed the need to have the graphics in PC62.72 enhanced and errors corrected. Mario volunteered to complete this task. 6. Ken Brown: PC62.62 no comments or updates since last meeting. Review of Action Item 11 REF Areas for elaboration reviewed. Ron noted that PAR expires 12/31/ Ken suggested breaking out into Taskforce portions for progress on the document. It was agreed that this would be done after the break. 8. Taskforce Updates: TF 1: Grounding and Bonding Bryan Cole (Leader) Bryan not present. Tony Surtees provided info on the grounding as related to lightning provided info on paper presented in Montreal. Andi Haa read the written report provided by Ray Hill which is as follows: TF 2: MCOV of MOV Coordination Ron Hotchkiss (Leader) Ron reported that the paper that Francois Martzloff had performed some years had been circulated. Conclusions for further progress on taskforce: 1. Use pre-sorted MOVs consideration of varistor window vs MCOV window 2. Use MOVs from same manufacturer Consider For Additional Papers: Use of different waveshape in coordination study. Use of 40 and 20 mm devices in same experiment TF Members: Ron Hotchkiss (Leader), Bryan Cole, Ken Brown, Tom Phipps, Dan Buchanan, and Mario Stolzenberg TF 3: Loss of Neutral Ron Hotchkiss (Leader)

15 Page 15 After brief discussion it was determined that because of the similar issues being reviewed in the UL Intermediate Current Taskforce, The Loss of Neutral Taskforce for would be restructured as follows: TF Members: Andi Haa (Leader), Tony Surtees, Joe DeGregoria, Doug Dorr, and Chuck Jensen Scope of Taskforce was enhanced to include: Review the various methods in which an abnormal failure can occur e.g. Loss of neutral Commingling Ferroresonance Faults on 3 phase systems wye connected systems Aging of MOVs The goal of the taskforce is to determine appropriate tests and test voltages and provide tests that are suitable to address abnormal failures. Use UL rd edition as part of review and discussion. 9. Old Business: A review of the previous action items was completed and updates were given. 10. New Business: No new business. 11. Breakout session for progress on previous Action Item 11 for work in specific areas. 12. Next Meeting: Monday 7 May to 10 May, Clearwater Beach, FL - Sheraton Sand Key Resort. 13. A list of action items related to these activities was developed. 14. The Chair adjourned the meeting at 11:55am. WG Low Voltage Data, Communications and Signaling Circuit Surge Protective Devices Chair: Al Martin SPDC Working Group Low Voltage Data, Communications and Signaling Circuit SPD Summary of the Fall, 2006 Meetings in Atlanta, GA Chairman: Al Martin, Tyco Electronics ViceChairman/Secretary: Greg Triplett, AC Data Systems Members present (10), Members absent (4), Interested Parties (4) 1 Administration WG met for 4 hours on Monday, October 2, 2006, and 4 hours [with an hour interruption for an IEEE presentation] on Wednesday October 4.

16 Page 16 2 Review and approval of agenda (-002) The agenda was reviewed. It was moved and seconded to accept agenda. 3 IP statement The intellectual property statement was read, as required by the IEEE 4 Review and approval of the notes from the last meeting (WG ) The notes from the last meeting in Clearwater, Florida were posted on the WG3.6.7 VC web site. They were reviewed and approved. 5 Review of homework assignments from last meeting Al Martin: Contribution supplying polymeric PTC values for matrix columns [done] Alan Rebeck: Contribution taking the phase shift test from C62.36 [clause 7.8] and adding it to C62.64 as subclause [done] Contribution supplying values for the Alarm Circuit matrix elements [done] Carl Lindquist and Bill Travis: Submit contribution commenting on the following: [done see 8.3] Review Table 10. Is it appropriate to have one table for 3 sections? How should it be laid out? Regarding the discussion in 12.3, consider whether the matrix should be expanded to include technology types as a subset of application types. For example, types A11a, A11b, A21a, and A21b, where the a would designate heat coils, and the b would designate fuses. Alternatively, should a range of values encompassing all technologies should be entered as matrix elements? Any other ideas? Brian Price: Contribution Supplying values for ceramic PTC for matrix columns [not done retired] Phillip Havens: Contribution supplying matrix elements for Type G Ethernet. [done] Chrys Chrysanthou: Update Draft 4 to include this meeting s activity [Al to supply meeting markup of Draft 4]. [done by Al] In Matrix, add values for Types A20 A30 Insertion Loss, Return Loss, Longitudinal Balance, Bit Error Rate [not done changed jobs] Global replacement of C to C [done by Al]

17 Page 17 Everyone We need a contribution on the % difference between the BER with the protector installed, and the BER with the protector removed [no contributions]. 6 Chair s Remarks 10 out of a possible 14 members were present, so a quorum existed. The Editor for C62.64, Chrys Chrysanthou, has resigned, as he has changed jobs. We need a new Editor. 7 Liaison None 8 Continue the revision of C62.64 PAR This standard is to be revised to include new technology and devices. It will Provide preferred values and parameters used to specify the performance of these surge protectors. Be coordinated with its companion document C Present PAR expires Dec 31, PAR extension to Dec 31, 2008 approved by NesCom Discussion of WG [Al Martin Revision proposal] Currently the Standard is organized into subclauses corresponding to the tests in C Each subclause has a table of preferred values for the referenced test. There are two problems with this approach. First of all the implication is that protectors are available with any combination of values from the tables, which is generally not true. Secondly, in today s world protectors are generally selected by reference to a standard [e.g. meets GR974], not by specifying a list of individual parameters. So a proposal was made and accepted to construct normative annexes for each application listed in Table 1. Each annex is to contain a table whose columns corresponded to protectors complying with a specific standard, and if appropriate, a specific class within the standard. The rows of the table correspond to the tests from C The elements of the table are the preferred values. The tables of values in the individual subclauses will be eliminated. The WG produced a template for an annex. This template will be distributed to WG members by , and WG members will be asked to use the template to create

18 Page 18 preferred values for as many annexes as they can. At the next meeting, these contributions will be integrated to create the annexes for the Standard. As an aid to filling out the template, Wolfgang Oertel offered an example of a filled-out template [WG L]. Discussion of Clause 5.2 of the Standard Since the revision proposal was accepted, discussion proceeded on WG [Draft 5 of C62.62] in accordance with WG The discussion of the Standard progressed from through subclause , leaving the transmission requirements [subclauses through ] still to be reviewed. The tables of values were eliminated, and the wording of the subclauses adjusted to reflect the new organization 9 New Business None 10 Action Items Rick Ellenberger will prepare an EXCEL template for the annexes. Al Martin will package Rick s template with Wolfgang s example template [WG L] and draft 5 of the Standard, and send out to the WG by E- mail. The is to include instructions for filling out the template. 11 Closing notes The Fall meeting was adjourned at 5:00 pm on Wednesday May 3, 2006 Next meeting: October 2 5, 2006 in Atlanta, GA. Venue is TBD Eight hours are requested for Monday of the next meeting, due to the Chairman having to leave on Tuesday. The availability of a PC projector, power cords, and a wireless hub would be appreciated. Adjusting the meeting schedule to avoid conflict between WG3.6.7 and SC3.1, SC3.2, WG3.6.2, and if possible WG3.6.3 would also be appreciated. WG Performance Standard for Low Voltage Surge-Protective Devices (Secondary Arresters) Chair: Ray Hill Meeting: 1:00 PM, Monday, October 1, 2006, Omni Hotel, CNN Center, Atlanta, GA ATTENDANCE: Members Present: 10 Interested Parties: 14 Guests: 1 (Mr. Hubert Bachl, Chair IEC SC37A)

19 Page The Chair opened the meeting at 1:05pm 2. Approval of Spring 2006 Minutes: Unanimously approved as corrected with comment by Tony Surtees. 3. Andi Haa - BRC report: The BRC has had teleconferences and the Dot 44 document is in the final stages of editing. It will then revert back to the BRC for a final check and, afterwards, be turned in for a recirculation ballot. This should occur prior to the end of the year. The WG Chair will submit a PAR extension for Dot The WG has four task forces working on various parts of Dot The title and scope of C62.34 Standard for Performance of Low-Voltage (1000V rms or less, frequency Hz) surge protective devices (secondary arresters) requires changing in order to cover test methods and performance criteria. A PAR will be completed to reflect the change. 6. There was WG consensus that test document titles should reflect: STANDARD FOR TEST METHODS AND PERFORMANCE OF LOW VOLTAGE SURGE PROTECTIVE DEVICES. 7. There was WG consensus to adopt the following seven topics as a template for test sections in documents. The test procedure template would consist of: Rationale Purpose General Guidelines Expected Results and Pass Criteria Test Setup Requirements Test Procedure Special Considerations (optional) There was a motion and second to take this to SC 3.6 for use by all WGs (16 yea, 2 abstain). Francois M. will introduce this at the SC 3.6 meeting. Adjourned: 5:00pm WG Surge Protection of Equipment Connected to Both Low Voltage AC Power and Communication Circuits Chair: Dr. A. J. (Tony) Surtees MINUTES of IEEE/SPD Working Group (Protection of Equipment connected to both ac power and communication circuits.) Meeting held at Omni Hotel, Atlanta, GA on Thursday, Oct 5, 2006 at 0800 ATTENDANCE: Members: 6 of 10, Interested Parties: 8, Visitors/Guests: 0 1. The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:05 am and reported the purpose of the working group. Introductions were completed.

20 Page The agenda was displayed on the screen. The agenda displayed was motioned to be accepted, seconded and approved. a. Comment from Francois: In future agendas, it would be appropriate to ask at this point if there are any new items that need to be included in new business. More appropriately, new business should be submitted one month ahead of the meeting so that the working group can prepare for the new business. 3. The patent slides from IEEE were displayed and discussed. The chair asked if there were any patent issues. 4. Tony Surtees reviewed the patent issue that had been previous brought to the attention of the working group. Tony has sent repeated correspondence to the holders of the patent. He has received an correspondence followed by verbal confirmation that the holders of the patent feel the patent has expired and there are no claims from the holders of the patent. The patent is no longer considered to be a concern regarding the work of the group. Action Item: Tony Surtees will verify with the IEEE that the current conclusions with regard to the patent issue are acceptable to the IEEE. 5. The minutes from the previous meeting were displayed, reviewed and approved by the working group. 6. The membership was reviewed by the Chair and Secretary and Chrys Chrysanthou, James Funke, and Steve Whisenant were removed from the membership list due to lack of meeting attendance or changes in their job. William Bush was added as a member. 7. The chair reviewed the PAR and stated that PAR extensions have been filed. Also, the working group chair change form has also been submitted. Also, there was some discussion about possibly changing the order of the wording of the title of the document to be Test Methods and Performance to possibly harmonize with the other documents from 3.6. This issue will be discussed in Working Group 3.6 to see if this task will be done for all test documents. Old Business 8. A review of the action items and updates to the action items are recorded below. The patent issue is considered closed unless IEEE feels otherwise. The PAR update and working group chair change is in process.

21 Page 21 Action Item: (Carried forward) Matthew Ceglia agreed to see if it would be acceptable from the IEEE s standpoint whether or not a manufacturer could claim compliance with this standard. He will report this back to the working group via the chair. It was reported by William Bush that there was no conflict with the work that is being done by the group headed by Percy Pool. Tony confirmed this statement. Editor s Report 9. Tony Surtees provided the editor s report. No changes have been reported by the editor. James Funke has resigned as the editor. Dean Negrelli volunteered to be the editor for the document. TF Reports 10. Tony Surtees provided a report for Task Force #4 (Changes for C62.51). Tony reported that no action has been taken by this task force and no action is needed until the completion of PC Francois Martzloff provided a report for Task Force #5 (Power Port). Francois reported that UL rd Edition has been published. It was discussed and decided that the power port procedure will completed via reference to the UL 1449 document and the documents of WG Francois agreed to take the action of preparing the reference text to these documents for inclusion in the draft. The work of TF #5 is complete. Action Item: Francois to prepare the reference text to UL 1449 and the WG documents for inclusion in the draft. 12. Greg Triplett agreed to accept the leadership role for Task Force #6 (Communications Port). There was no progress on the work between meetings. The task force will carry forward with their work. 13. Mick Maytum provided a report on Task Force #7 (Interaction/Equalization). Mick reviewed the progress of the task force and displayed the work for the working group. The work of this TF will continue. 14. The working group broke out into the TF groups and will report back after a half hour time period. The working group will discuss the progress of the TF. 15. The working group reconvened and provided updates from the work completed: Task Force #5 (Power Port): Work completed.

22 Page 22 Action items for the Task Force #5 (Power Port): 1. Francois to prepare the reference text to UL 1449 and the WG documents for inclusion in the draft. Task Force #6 (Communications Port): Greg Triplett presented the plan of how the task force will move forward. Test programs that will be taken out of the body of the document may be moved to an annex. Work will continue for this task force. Task Force #7 (Interaction/Equalization): Mick Maytum provided an update and reported good progress on the development of several key issues that were points of concern. Work will continue for this task force. A new editor was appointed (Dean Negrelli) Greg Triplett volunteered to lead Task Force #6. Mick Maytum was accepted as a new member. William Bush will be considered and taken to 3.6 for membership. It was decided that the working group will use the seven step template that was presented by Francois. Action Items from Oct 5, 2006 Meeting (Working Group): 1. Tony Surtees will verify with the IEEE that the current conclusions with regard to the patent issue are acceptable to the IEEE. 2. All task force leaders will provide the editor with their updates to the draft. 3. William Bush is to provide Mick Maytum with the voltage equalization sections from IEEE Ron Hotchkiss is to provide the editor the addresses for the working group and the task force leaders with the address of the editor. 5. Ken Brown is to determine if the working group would be allowed to post the draft of NEMA LS 1.x to the members area of the forum as an example of the type of descriptions desired for the document. 5. Disconnector Task Force Report Ron Hotchkiss, Chair The task force will present its final report/recommendation at the Spring 2007 meeting as directed.

23 Page Forum 10/350 Issues: Several topics were discussed and will continue in the sub-committee and affected working group meetings during the Spring 2007 meeting. 7. A&S Issues 8. Working Group Titles and Descriptions / Scopes (if time permits) no time available 9. Old Business 10. New Business 11. Adjourn Minutes of OMNI Hotel CNN Center Atlanta, Georgia October 5, 2006 Steve Hensley, Chairman -- UNAPPROVED --

24 Page Call to Order The meeting was called to order Thursday October 5, 2006 at 2:00 p.m. 2. Attendance The following were in attendance: Name Affiliation Member Steve Hensley (chair) Joslyn Manufacturing M Michael Champagne (vice Entergy M chair) Eva Tarasiewicz Ontario Hydro One M David Jackson R. W. Beck M Jon Woodworth Cooper Power Systems M Mike Comber Hubble Power Systems M Mike Ramarge Cooper Power Systems M Thomas J. Rozek DTE Entergy M Jim Wilson Retired M Rusty Robbins Southern Co. M M = Member; G = Guest; IP= Interested Party The chair read the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents and Standards to those present. 3. Minutes The Spring 2006 meeting minutes were approved without correction. 4. Working Group Meetings were held for: Continuous Rev. of C62.11 Mike Comber Protection & Insulation Coord. Of Transformers Eva Tarasiewicz Surge Protection of AC Machines C62.21 Dave Jackson Surge Protection of Generating Plants Rusty Robbins High Voltage Arrester Application Guide C62.22 Jody Levine/Tom Rozek Insulation Coordination Iuda Morar Neutral Grounding Steve Whisenant WG Separation Effects (Tom Fields, chair) did not meet.

25 Page Key Points from review of working group minutes All working groups reviewed the IEEE SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents and Standards to those present Continuous Revision of C62.11 Mike Comber, Chair The WG met on Wednesday, October 4 with 17 members and three interested parties. The WG reviewed task force reports: TF #10 - (Switching Surge capability Test) - There was a slight revision to include introductory remarks (rational, history) to the text. Now it s ready for inclusion in the next revision of C TF #11 - (Weather Aging of Polymer Arresters) - There was a discussion of the bracket aging test which centered around the question of whether or not there should be two classes of bracket. One proposal was a high and an normal pollution area. Larry Vogt (not present) has survey results and may be able to provide an answer at the next meeting. TF #12 - (Definitions) The TF reviewed definitions in C62.11 and compared them to the bibliography committee s list of definitions. Some inconsistencies were found in definitions. Future work for this TF is to determine if any terms and their definitions should be added to the definition clause of the next revision of C TF #13 - (Short Circuit Test) The TF needs to format the text of the test procedure into the standard format the C62.11 document and submitted as an amendment to C The TF is working on a PAR to submit in time for the December meeting. TF #14 - (Test Rationale) The TF met on Tuesday, October 3 to work on the reason and rational of each test as defined in C out of 23 tests have volunteers to write their rationales. The WG was updated on work done in IEC Protection & Insulation Coordination Of Transformers Eva Tarasiewicz, chair The WG met on Thursday, October 5 with 13 members and interested parties (total). The WG undertook to address the unresolved comments from the 2005 ballot of C62.22 that pertained to clauses 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3. The WG resolved approximately 20 comments and three technical questions. The chair will submit the spreadsheet with the resolved comments to Jody Levine, Tom Rozek, and Dave Jackson by November 30, Surge Protection of AC Machines C62.21 Dave Jackson, chair The WG met on Tuesday, October 3 with 4 members and 2 interested parties. The WG discussed and IEEE paper and the draft of C with the stuck breaker issue and the exact definition of per unit voltage. The WG concluded that one per unit is the crest value of phase-to-ground voltage when discussing surges, but the chair took an action item to confirm this conclusion with the one of the authors of the paper in question. There are other questions concerning the paper which the chair will try to answer and, if necessary, set up a conference call between the author and the WG members.

26 Page 26 The is no template for a corrigenda from IEEE. Matt Ceglia provided an example to use to revise C Application Guide for Protection of Electric Generating Plants C62.23 Dave Jackson, Rusty Robbins, co-chairs The WG met on Thursday, October 5 with 5 members and 3 interested parties. The WG worked on the draft of C Some statements were modified to bind generating plants ground grids to transmission ground grids as opposed to IPPs, wind farms, and micro grids. The clauses concerning power lines and switch yards will remain. The WG will continue to resolve comments to latest ballot High Voltage Application Guide C62.22 Tom Rozek & Jody Levine, co-chairs The WG meeting was devoted to working on the ballot resolution of C The remaining 250 comments were divided at the meeting amongst non-brc members and are due back to Jody Levine by November 30, Insulation Coordination Iuda Morar, Chair (Reported by Jon Woodworth) Mike Champagne will provide a copy of 1312 (now C84.1) to chair. Dave Jackson suggested that standards group may be able to provide the balloted copy of this standard. Jim Wilson has received a PAR extension for C until The Chair requested more help going through C because of the length of the document. This work will involve comparing this document to IEC standard (IEC 71.2) and preparing for future revisions. Jim Wilson has applied for a new PAR for this document. Dave Jackson suggested that the draft be identified as such (C /D1/2006) to be aware of which draft is current. There were some significant changes to C Previous revision (C ) was added to the references Definitions 3.11 correct square root of explanation of overvoltage, including maximum RMS voltage to explain Vm Discussion of changes to voltage levels shown in Table 1. These voltages should be compared to what is shown in C84.1. Mike will be working to get a copy of this document.