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1 Legislative Assembly of Ontario Assemblée législative de l Ontario Official Report of Debates (Hansard) Journal des débats (Hansard) E-1 E-1 Standing Committee on Estimates Comité permanent des budgets des dépenses Organization Organisation 1 st Session 42 nd Parliament 1 re session 42 e législature Tuesday 7 August 2018 Mardi 7 août 2018 Chair: Peter Tabuns Clerk: Timothy Bryan Président : Peter Tabuns Greffier : Timothy Bryan

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3 CONTENTS Tuesday 7 August 2018 Election of Chair... E-1 Election of Vice-Chair... E-1 Appointment of subcommittee... E-1

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5 E-1 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO STANDING COMMITTEE ON ESTIMATES ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L ONTARIO COMITÉ PERMANENT DES BUDGETS DES DÉPENSES Tuesday 7 August 2018 Mardi 7 août 2018 The committee met at 0903 in committee room 1. ELECTION OF CHAIR The Clerk pro tem (Mr. Christopher Tyrell): Good morning, honourable members. It is my duty to call upon you to elect a Chair. Are there any nominations? Ms. Judith Monteith-Farrell: I am pleased to move Peter Tabuns for Chair. The Clerk pro tem (Mr. Christopher Tyrell): Okay. Does the member accept the nomination? Mr. Peter Tabuns: I do. The Clerk pro tem (Mr. Christopher Tyrell): Are there any further nominations? There being no further nominations, I declare the nominations closed and Mr. Tabuns elected Chair of the committee. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Thank you. Thank you all. Applause. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): A frenzy of enthusiasm, but I appreciate it. Mrs. Gila Martow: For the record, I d like to say that the honourable member chaired my committee for the last few years and did a wonderful job, so thank you. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Thank you, Gila. Thank you very much. With that, we go to election of Vice-Chair sorry. Interjection. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): I appreciate the suggestion. ELECTION OF VICE-CHAIR The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Good morning, honourable members. It s my duty to entertain a motion for Vice-Chair. Are there any motions? Ms. Judith Monteith-Farrell: I m pleased to move Wayne Gates as Vice-Chair. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Are there any others? There are none. A motion has been moved by Ms. Monteith-Farrell. Is there any debate? There s none. Are members ready to vote? Shall the motion carry? Carried. APPOINTMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEE The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Subcommittee appointment: Do we have a motion to appoint the subcommittee? Ms. Martow? Mrs. Gila Martow: I move that a subcommittee on committee business be appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair or at the request of any member thereof to consider and report to the committee on the business of the committee; That the presence of all members of the subcommittee is necessary to constitute a meeting; and That the subcommittee be composed of the following members: the Chair as Chair, Mr. Pettapiece and Ms. Monteith-Farrell; and That substitution be permitted on the subcommittee. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Any discussion or comments? If none, I ll put the question. Shall the motion carry? Carried. Now we can go on to closed session. Interjection. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Ms. Monteith- Farrell, please? Ms. Judith Monteith-Farrell: I would like to move that the committee move to room 151 because it has an enhanced audiovisual capacity. The Chair (Mr. Peter Tabuns): Are there any concerns? Any discussion on the part of other members of the committee? People are comfortable with that? All those in favour? Opposed? Carried. Okay. Thank you. Now we can go into closed session. The committee continued in closed session at 0907.

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8 STANDING COMMITTEE ON ESTIMATES Chair / Président Mr. Peter Tabuns (Toronto Danforth ND) Vice-Chair / Vice-Président Mr. Wayne Gates (Niagara Falls ND) Mr. Stan Cho (Willowdale PC) Ms. Jill Dunlop (Simcoe North / Simcoe-Nord PC) Mr. John Fraser (Ottawa South / Ottawa-Sud L) Mr. Wayne Gates (Niagara Falls ND) Mr. Stephen Lecce (King Vaughan PC) Mrs. Gila Martow (Thornhill PC) Ms. Judith Monteith-Farrell (Thunder Bay Atikokan ND) Ms. Lindsey Park (Durham PC) Mr. Randy Pettapiece (Perth Wellington PC) Mr. Peter Tabuns (Toronto Danforth ND) Clerk pro tem / Greffier par intérim Mr. Christopher Tyrell Staff / Personnel Ms. Laura Anthony, research officer, Research Services Mr. Jason Apostolopoulos, research officer, Research Services